AugustineA Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 This problem can be solved with awareness, but mostly with more beard..
AugustineA Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Things are already improving. I can feel it. In fact, I'm gonna grow my beard out more for the movement.
Not The Philosopher Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 So the Thing escaped from Antarctica after all...
Perigrina Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Isn't there some other place to post silly pictures so this thread can be left for the people who want to discuss the topic?
AugustineA Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 k, go ahead. I won't post any more pics. So males make up 40% of abuse cases. Big problems.
Perigrina Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Funny because I never said we should do nothing about domestic violence or injustices. All I'm implying is that we shouldn't beach about it like a bunch of wusses. Everyone has a campaign to complain about something, whether it's men's boohooing about abusive women, or women trying to ban the word bossy. IMO, both sexes have coddled beyond reason. You seem to be taking the position that men should just put up with abuse. It is not clear to me how that is doing something about the problem. You have been consistently dismissive about this issue, including this post. There is no comparison between the "ban the word bossy" campaign and raising awareness of domestic violence against men. The former is a manufactured grievance while the latter deals with a genuine serious problem. Acknowledging that men are abused by women, that this is wrong, and that this should be stopped, is not "coddling beyond reason". Your attempt to shame men out of speaking up against abuse (calling them "a bunch of wusses") contributes to the problem. You are promoting injustice.
Selah Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 What's wussey about admitting you need help? God, this alpha male mentality I cannot even
AugustineA Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I'm with credo. It's not a bad thing to raise awareness and recognize that it happens, and indeed it is a good thing to encourage men and women in abusive situations to seek help. But the popularity and simultaneous fragmentation of social justice into all these tiny movements and awareness campaigns is tiresome.. We should be focused on the Gospel, of which a great part is charity and love in our interpersonal and intimate relationships. Forget social justice campaigning. Let's do some Jesus campaigning.. Let's convert hearts so they embrace sacramental life and see their spouse for the beautiful soul they are. Christ heals and orders the wounded and disordered. Let's encourage priests to be more Christlike, open to help all his flock, men and women in their intimate relationships. Humans need holistic remedies, spiritual and physical. They have to be consoled and mended and embraced. Can you imagine how pained someone would have to be to treat their significant other like that? We need to convert these men and women, not raise awareness that (surprise) men can be treated unfairly. I get enough of that campaigning on billboards and facebook, and it will never fix us. :pope3: Edited May 26, 2014 by AugustineA
Perigrina Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I'm with credo. It's not a bad thing to raise awareness and recognize that it happens, and indeed it is a good thing to encourage men and women in abusive situations to seek help. But the popularity and simultaneous fragmentation of social justice into all these tiny movements and awareness campaigns is tiresome.. Most people do not know that domestic abuse of men even exists. This ignorance leads to abused men being ashamed to seek help, lack of resources for them, and to children being placed with abusive mothers. This ignorance and its ensuing evils will not be dispelled by "let's just present the Gospel". Yes, an ideal world in which everyone followed Christ would not have this problem. We don't live in that world and we never will, no matter how much we evangelize. Nobody is being asked to choose between spreading the Gospel and dealing with specific issues. Do both. Edited May 26, 2014 by Perigrina
Selah Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 LOL are you seriously implying social justice is a bad thing? It's too early for this, I'm going out to the garden.
Perigrina Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 LOL are you seriously implying social justice is a bad thing? Really. Imagine the reaction if someone wrote a paragraph like this about opposing abortion: "We should be focused on the Gospel, of which a great part is charity and love in our interpersonal and intimate relationships. Forget social justice campaigning. Let's do some Jesus campaigning.. Let's convert hearts so they embrace sacramental life and see the unborn for the beautiful souls they are. Christ heals and orders the wounded and disordered." Part of spreading the Gospel is showing it in our lives. We must be people of justice and compassion. We must live out the love of God or there can be no evangelism. Social justice and evangelizing are interdependent, not things to pit against each other.
Benedictus Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 I think people see the reaction of the woman being agressive as 'empowerment' and standing up for herself aganist a man who could, if he wanted, overpower her. I think it is full of wrong notions about what society deems approrpriate, and it's very hypocritical. I think while such notions exist most of the problems in society, often highlighted by feminists, won't make positive progress. Abuse should be seen as abuse, regardless of who does it.
Lilllabettt Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 wow so phatmass is turning into tumblr. pretty much. God help us all.
PhuturePriest Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I have a black belt in karate, and a brown belt in another karate style. I've been doing karate since I was 4 years old, and I'm probably about to get my second degree. I was invited to represent Team USA in the World Congress of Martial Arts several months ago in the Dominican Republic. I don't have much to fear in terms of danger from most women. That being said, if my girlfriend/wife were to attack me, you'd better believe I would call the cops on her. Not because I can't handle her, but because I shouldn't have to handle her. Attacking your spouse either verbally or physically is not mentally stable, and she needs professional help that I cannot provide. The issue isn't about me getting hurt, but about her getting the mental assistance she needs. Edited May 26, 2014 by FuturePriest387
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