bernadette d Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 I really think Anneline is the person for this, if she feels she has the time in her busy life.
Nihil Obstat Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 What about someone who does not use the Vocation Station? They would be largely unattached to most of the major fights that spring up, and they would be less biased than the average poster since a lot of VSers rarely venture outside of VS. I nominate Credo in Deum.
Credo in Deum Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I vote for, VEE8. Solid use of emoticons is the trademark of all great Mod's. I nominate Credo in Deum. Edited July 30, 2014 by Credo in Deum
Nunsense Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 AnneLine and Nunsense would both be excellent choices, IMHO. :) Thank you MT - it's not something I would have liked when I first joined, but now that I have some distance from VS, I think it might be quite nice to 'give something back' to Phatmass as it were. For those who worry about me being a postulant and having time to be a mod, first, I have full permission to spend time online and on this phorum. My community is full of mature women who believe in each person accepting responsibility for their own actions, even the postulants. And my Prioress has taken into consideration my mature age (60+), and my many experiences as a postulant already. In fact, she said if it weren't in the Constitutions that I have to complete at least six months as a postulant, she would be happy to make me a Novice instead, simply because I have already spent more than two and a half years as a postulant in various communities already! :) Second, I already have online access, as one of my jobs is to continue with my online transcription work as it provides a small income which I contribute to the community. So, access and availability are not an issue. I have also witnessed over the past seven years, many things changing on Phatmass, and seen the traumas and dramas that have unfolded. Sometimes I have even been a part of those, as a poster. I realize that as a mod, I would have to stay detached and unemotional, and to avoid giving the appearance of partiality in discussions. Not to say I couldn't have my own opinion, I am sure, but as the culture in VS is different than the rest of Phatmass, my priority would have to be supporting and maintaining that culture, rather than try to impose my own views on others. I prefer it when mods have a 'hands off' approach and don't try to be 'nannies' or 'phorum police' but on the other hand, VS needs closer monitoring for charity than some of the other phorums. No one who regulates is going to be popular all the time (witness that drama that was raised when dUSt closed down the PMs for awhile) but hopefully, a mod won't be alienating people either. I would love to see VS return to more of the 'phamily' atmosphere that it had when I first joined in 2007, but since people have come and gone since then, with the change in personalities, the dynamics were bound to change as well. Recently things seem to be pretty good, but I suppose there is always room for all of us to try a little harder to make this a truly supportive environment for those interested in the priesthood or religious life.
AnneLine Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Well.... hmmmm.... uh, thank you... uh... I guess? :eek: I have the internet repair people due at my home within the hour, so I have poor to little access at the moment and want to think and pray about this anyway. It was NOT on my list of things to do today! dUSt when I have some internet (probably later today) I will send you an email to the webmaster account. I will pray about it.... MEANWHILE... Could I suggest EVERYONE pray about the Holy Spirit sending VS the right person(s) for this job? As I see it, to use a religious life motif, the mod ideally should function almost more a 'prior/prioress' -- i.e., first among equals.... who does a service to the community... and needs the backing, love and respect of the others in the community. Without that... would be a hard job indeed.... So let's pray for the right person... and wisdom for our dUSt.... and now.... signing off until the Comcast guy figures out why our internet keeps going off multiple times a day... Grrrrrr.... a few prayers for THAT would be appreciated, too!!!! Edited July 30, 2014 by AnneLine
OnlySunshine Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 I feel like I'm campaigning for student council or something. LOL! :hehe2:
Lilllabettt Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 the thing is to seem like you don't want it but would nevertheless accept it if you were "drafted." -- page 14 in Keys to Success at the Papal Conclave
OnlySunshine Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 the thing is to seem like you don't want it but would nevertheless accept it if you were "drafted." -- page 14 in Keys to Success at the Papal Conclave I remember hearing the story of Pope Francis. They wanted to nominate him during the Papal Conclave (where Benedict XVI was made pope) but he persisted that he wasn't the man for the job. Now, look at him.
AnneLine Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 emailed dUSt a quick response... and now the cable guy commeth.... :sos: and I will offer THAT penance up for wisdom on VS mod selection! Praying for all of you... will be back .... when I can...
Nunsense Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 the thing is to seem like you don't want it but would nevertheless accept it if you were "drafted." -- page 14 in Keys to Success at the Papal Conclave This made me laugh... I think in positions of power or authority, the general rule is that the person who doesn't want the job would be the best person for it. But I think in a case like this, it would be silly to appoint someone who actually didn't want to do it or was unable to do it for any reason. That's why I threw my hat into the ring - I just happen to be in a place where I can and would even enjoy it, but if AL or anyone else for that matter ends up being the mod, then I will support whoever dUSt decides would be a fit at this time. Mods come and go ... as long as VS is kept running in a charitable and healthy way, then I'm happy :)
franciscanheart Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 I think you should ask all the ex-mods (especially the ones who had to deal with vocation station) who they think would be a good nomination. I mean, who knows better than the people who were driven away who will most likely be up for the challenge?
vee Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 I vote for, VEE8. Solid use of emoticons is the trademark of all great Mod's. :princess:
domenica_therese Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 This made me laugh... I think in positions of power or authority, the general rule is that the person who doesn't want the job would be the best person for it. But I think in a case like this, it would be silly to appoint someone who actually didn't want to do it or was unable to do it for any reason. Right, I was admin on a site for a bit, and we used to kind of draft people we thought were solid into the position, but sometimes they had no idea what the commitment would really be like. They accepted the position out of a feeling of obligation, but didn't truly have the time for it. I'm trying to convince the current administration to move to having people apply for the positions since it's such an intensive job, you really do need someone very devoted, but they're afraid of drama. We shall see. :hehe2:
dUSt Posted July 31, 2014 Author Posted July 31, 2014 I think you should ask all the ex-mods (especially the ones who had to deal with vocation station) who they think would be a good nomination. I mean, who knows better than the people who were driven away who will most likely be up for the challenge? Ex-mods are dead to me.
Amppax Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 I second the ex-mod's weighing in. Mainly because I'm laughing at the different posts in this thread they have liked.
Anastasia13 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Ex-mods are dead to me. Even saints can intercede on our behalf. St. Thomas Moore, St. Joseph, et. al., please intercede on behalf of Phatmass that we will have a good moderator to govern this board [even without an iron fist of glory if that is the Lord's will]. Amen.
Nunsense Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 dUSt, I would like to withdraw my offer to act as mod for VS. I have had some nasty emails about this personally, which in themselves don't bother me, but I do think if some people feel so strongly about NOT wanting me to be a mod here, then it would be potentially divisive for VS if the choice was me. What we want here on VS is peace, not disharmony, so in the interests of VS, I have no problem stepping back. I heartily recommend Matermisericordae because she has been on phatmass since 2009, has spent most of her time here in VS, and has even set up two websites to help discerners, one for mature age and one to help potential postulants find items and clothing for entrance. I have no objection to anyone else who has been nominated either and will fully support whomever you appoint. :) PAX CHRISTI.
chrysostom Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 dUSt, I would like to withdraw my offer to act as mod for VS. I have had some nasty emails about this personally, which in themselves don't bother me, but I do think if some people feel so strongly about NOT wanting me to be a mod here, then it would be potentially divisive for VS if the choice was me. :(
OnlySunshine Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 dUSt, I would like to withdraw my offer to act as mod for VS. I have had some nasty emails about this personally, which in themselves don't bother me, but I do think if some people feel so strongly about NOT wanting me to be a mod here, then it would be potentially divisive for VS if the choice was me. What we want here on VS is peace, not disharmony, so in the interests of VS, I have no problem stepping back. I heartily recommend Matermisericordae because she has been on phatmass since 2009, has spent most of her time here in VS, and has even set up two websites to help discerners, one for mature age and one to help potential postulants find items and clothing for entrance. I have no objection to anyone else who has been nominated either and will fully support whomever you appoint. :) PAX CHRISTI. I'm sorry to hear you've been getting ugly emails. :( But, thank you, nonetheless, for your support.
Catherine Therese Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 dUSt, I would like to withdraw my offer to act as mod for VS. I have had some nasty emails about this personally, which in themselves don't bother me, but I do think if some people feel so strongly about NOT wanting me to be a mod here, then it would be potentially divisive for VS if the choice was me. What we want here on VS is peace, not disharmony, so in the interests of VS, I have no problem stepping back. I heartily recommend Matermisericordae because she has been on phatmass since 2009, has spent most of her time here in VS, and has even set up two websites to help discerners, one for mature age and one to help potential postulants find items and clothing for entrance. I have no objection to anyone else who has been nominated either and will fully support whomever you appoint. :) PAX CHRISTI. I am honestly SHOCKED. BEMUSED. And dreadfully disappointed. H8 mail on VS? There's something missing in my synaptic pathways because my mind can't draw a line between the kind of person who is authentically interested in religious life and the kind of person who sends a nasty email and gets all personal, whether or not they agree with a decision or have a particularly strong affection for any given person. Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, seriously. Not to mention the fact that to get so worked up about who is moderating an online community seems entirely devoid of any kind of eschatological perspective, or even a temporal grip on reality. Nunsense, thank you for being so willing to put the time and energy into helping to maintain a charitable tone in VS. For bright-eyed discerners and for post-convent/seminary returners alike, this is so important as these periods in a person's life they can be very vulnerable and confused. Likewise, thank you for your detachment and willingness to withdraw your nomination if that were the best for the common good. I had no preference one way or another for any of the nominated mods, I think there are good things to be said about each one of them, and will happily receive whomever is put in that place. But down here on the "bottom rung" as it were of just regular VS posters, I invite my peers to consider the parallel that AnneLine illustrated. In many ways, the appointment of a moderator for this online community is the same as receiving a new superior in a religious community. Uncharitable mail or bad behaviour would not be tolerated in such a community, and quite frankly, we should all be striving for the kind of charity that means that these basic standards don't NEED to be enforced here either because its part of who we are as Christians - "They'll know you are Christians by your love." To quote Pope St Leo the Great: "Christians, remember your dignity!" - by extrapolation, for the sake of ALL that's good and holy, remember the dignity of the person on the other side of the network connection and treat them with the reverence they are due. I am not naive and the problem is not with my expectations of this community of which I am part. The problem is that we fail to meet those reasonable expectations, we fall - so let's all get up again together?
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