Lounge Daddy Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [b][url="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html"]UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after [/url][/b] [font="Courier"]SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Friday, June 11, 2004 The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program. The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared. [/font] [b] [font="Courier"][url="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html"]read it all here[/url][/font][/b]
Lounge Daddy Posted June 12, 2004 Author Posted June 12, 2004 [font="Courier"]I hope this news gets a lot more attention than what it is getting right now - the "big deal" about the war was the WMD scare... and the chance the WMD's were shipped to another country. to have the U.N. back this up - wow. I am sick of hearing Liberals gossip about Bush chasing ghosts.[/font]
Iacobus Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Jun 12 2004, 11:41 AM'] [font="Courier"]I hope this news gets a lot more attention than what it is getting right now - the "big deal" about the war was the WMD scare... and the chance the WMD's were shipped to another country. to have the U.N. back this up - wow. I am sick of hearing Liberals gossip about Bush chasing ghosts.[/font] [/quote] He did kinda chase ghosts, or so it seems. But on the point, If the UN backs this up and supports it it means we HOPEFULLY will go into an other war. I would really like to see Pakastan get in trouble, I mean they gave nukes to North Korea :ph34r: . But the US track record on WMD shippment isn't very good.
William Putnam Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Jun 12 2004, 11:11 AM'] [b][url="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html"]UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after [/url][/b] [font="Courier"]SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Friday, June 11, 2004 The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program. The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared. [/font] [b] [font="Courier"][url="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html"]read it all here[/url][/font][/b] [/quote] That's funny. The mainstream media seems to be very quiet on this.... Hummmmmmmmmmmmm...........like they were on that artillary shell that was full of saran gas. Oh well, not significant news for them, I guess... Bill+†+ [i]Democrats love the Vietnam War because they won and America lost.[/i]
Iacobus Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='William Putnam' date='Jun 12 2004, 12:26 PM'] Hummmmmmmmmmmmm...........like they were on that artillary shell that was full of saran gas. [i]Democrats love the Vietnam War because they won and America lost.[/i] [/quote] As I gather that gas never lab tested out as sarin. And about Nam. Ike sent the 1st advirors over. Ike was GOP. And Dems lost. Look at teh 1968 convention. Who won? The North Vietnamese. Nam was unwinable.
Enda Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Jun 12 2004, 02:46 PM'] As I gather that gas never lab tested out as sarin. [/quote] Oh yes they did. In either case this is a perfect example of media bias. Mayve htey're thinking "just ignore and maybe we can make it to be untrue."
Iacobus Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='Enda' date='Jun 12 2004, 01:13 PM'] Oh yes they did. In either case this is a perfect example of media bias. Mayve htey're thinking "just ignore and maybe we can make it to be untrue." [/quote] Where you find that? Media basis? LOL! In favor of GOP and pro abortion yes. But that is all the numbers show. LOL!
Enda Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Whoa, whoa, hold up Jacob. You think the media has a [i]right[/i]-wing bias. Dude, you must be more left-wing then I thought if you think CNN loves Bush.
foundsheep Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 [quote name='Lynne' date='Jun 12 2004, 04:01 PM'] I can't wait for them to [b]actually[/b] find them. [/quote] thats what Im sayin!
Aloysius Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 that shell clearly had sarin gas... so they've found some already, and clearly they know he had them. ppl will continue to try to make it seem as if the Iraq thing was just about oil and all that, they'll probably be sayin that for decades, but the fact is Bush and a bunch of other people saw a real threat there and acted, and that threat was not baseless. PAX
ThyWillBeDone Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 I really wish this story would get on the news in America. But like William Putnam said they will keep it quiet just like they did with the Sarin gas shell. But what should we expect they are happy as long as it look likes Bush was wrong. Even if more and more evidence seems to show he was right after all.
William Putnam Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Jun 12 2004, 12:46 PM']As I gather that gas never lab tested out as sarin. And about Nam. Ike sent the 1st advirors over. Ike was GOP. And Dems lost. Look at teh 1968 convention. Who won? The North Vietnamese. Nam was unwinable.[/quote] Nonsense! Ask any general of that war, and note the micromanagement that took place by the White House, and the New Media who I accuse of causing us to loose heart and the war was lost. VC General Giap is reported to have said that the US News media was his greatest ally. Their reporting and slanting of the news convinced him that he should hang on, which he did. And of course, their coverage of our hippy protests convinced him even more. And the Dems would have us do it again in Iraq... Had we persisted and had we continued the withering bombing campaign, we would have won that war handily. Please Lord, not John Kerry, oh please, Lord, not him! Bill+†+ [i]Democrats love the Vietnam War because they won and America lost.[/i]
Lounge Daddy Posted June 13, 2004 Author Posted June 13, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Jun 12 2004, 03:03 PM'] Where you find that? Media basis? LOL! In favor of GOP and pro abortion yes. But that is all the numbers show. LOL! [/quote] [font="Courier"]The media is absolutely biased to the Left, and there is a recent study supporting the claim. Consider this example from the last Presidential election… I do recall when George W. Bush won endorsements by some retired military generals the mainstream media reported this as a questionable endorsement – and the story was that maybe men and women in military could not publicly support politicians (even though the men endorsing Bush were no longer active in the military). However, when Bill Clinton ran with endorsements of the same kind to counter questions of his lack of experience in handling of world affairs, nothing but positive coverage of Gov. Clinton’s successful gain of confidence by some military figures.[/font]
Iacobus Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 Yes but if you look back to 2000. The last full and comeplete pres election we have had. Compere the number of postive storys for Gore to the number for Bush. Also compere negative stories. Bush Gore Postive 24% 13% Neutral 27% 31% Negative 49% 56% That really defeats a liberal media. And Putman, the Tet offense pulled the American heart out of the war. After that, seeing war and death invade the living rooms, people stopped supporting the war. Did the media bring it in yes. Did ABC attack the marines?
Lounge Daddy Posted June 13, 2004 Author Posted June 13, 2004 [font="Courier"][b]Wow, that is interesting… I guess – so where did those numbers come from?[/b] There has been a mainstream media bias for many years, and this should be common knowledge – but I know full well this is not. But, from the recent extensive study:[/font] “While most of the journalists, like many Americans, describe themselves as "moderate," a far higher number are "liberal" than in the general population. At national organizations (which includes print, TV and radio), the numbers break down like this: 34% liberal, 7% conservative. At local outlets: 23% liberal, 12% conservative. At Web sites: 27% call themselves liberals, 13% conservatives. This contrasts with the self-assessment of the general public: 20% liberal, 33% conservative.” [url="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000517184"]http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/ne...t_id=1000517184[/url] “Liberal thinking may be catching up with the press, according to a survey of 547 journalists released Sunday. The poll found that only 7 percent of the nationally based journalists called themselves "conservatives" while 34 percent described themselves as liberal and 54 percent as moderate. Among the general public, according to a separate Pew poll from earlier this month, 33 percent call themselves conservative, 20 percent liberal and 41 percent moderate. "The assumption has been that as time went on, the mainstream media was becoming less liberal as people looked for an alternative voice. But the survey shows this is not true at all. The mainstream news outlets are more liberal than ever," said Brent Baker of the Media Research Center. Amy Mitchell of the Project for Excellence in Journalism, which conducted the poll with the Pew Research Center and the Committee of Concerned Journalists, said the survey "found a more definite liberal tilt in journalists than in the general public. And when there is a situation like that, there is the potential for problems in coverage." [url="http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040524-103202-3266r.htm"]http://washingtontimes.com/national/200405...03202-3266r.htm[/url] “In a related finding, 31 percent of national journalists now have a great deal of confidence in the public's election choices, compared with 52 percent at the end of the Clinton administration. The clear implication is that many media people feel superior to their customers.” [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50403-2004May23.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2004May23.html[/url]
Lounge Daddy Posted June 13, 2004 Author Posted June 13, 2004 [font="Courier"]bump - because you will not see this on CNN or your local Press Also, William Putnam - welcome to Phatmass, Sir. Enjoy, brother. I have a brother in-law in the Navy right now - he enlisted after 9/11 and we are very, very proud.[/font]
crusader1234 Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 GOOD THEY FOUND PROOF! Now we can finally start attacking.... wait a minute, we already did!
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