is the trinity illogical?

[reyb]

Double Post.

Edited September 5, 2015 by reyb

[reyb]

And by the insulting and overbearing nature in which you approach other members of this forum - there is no reason for me to believe in your professions of love or that you know Jesus.

You seem to like Paul. Paul writes:

But I do not see any of those things in you.

Did I insulted you? Anyway, as I have said...it is now up to you. I have done my part.

[dairygirl4u2c]

Before this topic goes any further - it might help if you set forth a proposed definition of "logical" and "illogical".

Let's assume for the sake of argument that the Christian concept of the Trinity is objectively true. Can something that is objectively true be illogical - in your opinion?

I am not sure if I would go as far as to call the Trinity entirely illogical - there have been plenty of things in history that we have not understood, but then at a later time came to understand. The fact that we did not understand it in the past does not mean that it was illogical then.

Every being that we know of in the universe consists of one person.  The Trinity asserts that there is a being that consists of three persons. There is no being like that in the known universe - so it is difficult for us to fathom, certainly. Perhaps one day God will show us how that works.

Thread hijack - Question for people that know (a.k.a. not reyb): Technically, I think that the Catholic Church teaches that God is not a "being" in any sense at all, but rather "the sheer act of to be itself" as Fr. Barron puts it:

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/column/why-i-love-my-invisible-friend-2970/

Is Fr. Barron using the word "being" there in the same sense that people sometimes say "One being" when attempting to explain the Trinity?

i dont see a reason to define logical or illogical. but if i did define them, any dictionary defintion will do. 

i dont know if something objectively true can be illogical. my thought process on this is i was one who believed in the trinity as illogical. and in the vein of not placing restrictions on god said he can be illogical. then i started to question whether God can be illogical, and that brought up the old idea of the trinity and brought it into question to me. i tend to still believe in the trinity but think that idea has some splaining to do. and perhaps what is thought of as heretical modal ideas shouldn't be considered heresy. 

i agree with you though, maybe it just seems illogical but time will show us something different as many things have come to later be fully understood that once weren't. but i still stand by my statements, that if we're concluding what everyone here is concluding, it seems we should at least admit that it SOUNDS illogical. 

Edited September 6, 2015 by dairygirl4u2c

[Peace]

. . . but i still stand by my statements, that if we're concluding what everyone here is concluding, it seems we should at least admit that it SOUNDS illogical. 

I don't see why anyone should agree with your conclusion when you will not define what you mean by "illogical" or what criteria you are using to classify things as logical or illogical. There are many different dictionaries that contain different definitions. Which one are you using?

Define your terms and your criteria and then I will tell you whether or not I agree with your statement.

[Didacus]

But this is a question of things difficult to understand, but easily accepted once understood.  

[Didacus]

But this is a question of things difficult to understand, but easily accepted once understood.  

[little2add]

 The inability to validate the logic of the Trinity does not necessarily deem the subject illogical.  

 

[Not A Real Name]

When we cannot understand something we call it a mystery not illogical.

Also I just want leave this here:

Love this movie.  

Edited September 8, 2015 by Not A Real Name