Life Teen

[Philippe]

bible geek is hilarious also. i heard him speak at six flags magic mountain

"There are 2 types of people in this world. the first is the one who has problems and goes to the bible and the Church. the other type is the one who goes to drugs. Man that guys is looking at the wrong burning bush"

- Bible Geek

[Aloysius]

you know my gripe with Lifeteen, well at least the Lifeteen at my Church, it doesn't go deep. It sticks to the surface of the faith. Sure it's good for bringin people in, but once they're in they don't see any depth to it, each life night is just again and again the same stuff, they talk to us and cite pop-spirituality books that they think have some deep lesson they're gettin to us when in reality it's just a cheap surface trick on spirituality. They need to find a way to bring people in deeper.

at least the lifeteen in my area.

[Philippe]

well ya i agree and thats why our lifeteen leader guy started this thing called "Going Deeper" and its a much more involved intense discussion and the great thing about lifeteen is that there are people of different parts in their faith so it takes them in and by establishing another program like Going Deeper u can smell of elderberries them into the magesterium

[qfnol31]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Jul 2 2004, 08:18 PM'] It does have problems though, and some of them are major. In all the Lifeteen masses I've been to or heard about, they [b]do[/b] change the mass (the Lifeteen website encourages the teens to gather around the altar), and I haven't seen anything from Rome that approves this. You'd think that if the approval existed, it'd be available for view on the Lifeteen website. They change the words of the dismissal prayer from "the mass has ended" to "the mass never ends"--again, without approval from Rome. This should not be taken lightly. The mass is universal, so when different groups start changing little things here and there, they are in essence destroying that universal unity. [/quote]
Actually the Holy See, in either the General Instructions to the Roman Missal or Redemptionis Sacramentum, or both, did mention that these two abuses specifically should be stopped.

[mattosika]

Life teen is like WHHOOOAAA, its awsome, it totally was my conversion experience was with life teen if any ever gets the chance to go to a life teen mass they should go

[lifeteenchick527]

ya...i totally love lifeteen...it has really brought me to understand wat i believe instead of memorizing and taking tests and knoeing facts and stuff like that


plus i think and add plus is that the people i have met there...i most likely wuld not have met...and i agree with wat philippe said and our lifeteen leader is totally awesome...(i go to the same lifeteen as philippe)

ya i think that it has definietly been a great thing for the Church...and for getting teens involoved in the Church

[ilovechrist]

[quote name='qfnol31' date='Jul 3 2004, 03:59 AM'] Actually the Holy See, in either the General Instructions to the Roman Missal or Redemptionis Sacramentum, or both, did mention that these two abuses specifically should be stopped. [/quote]
yes----and they have in the official program.

hopefully all Parishes will obey this law enforcement.... i now desperately want LifeTeen to begin @ our Parish!!!

[nikkan_hanil]

I hate it.

[ilovechrist]

why?!

[nikkan_hanil]

Music smells of elderberries and I hate how the scream at the end of Mass.

Priest: The Mass...

Kids: ...hAs n0T 3nd3d!11! I+ must Bee liv3d!!1!1!one!!1!

Sorry. LT is just not my thing.

[Carnanc]

I have never been to a LT Mass, though those abuses scare me I'm sure they are a good program in many ways.

[ilovechrist]

nikkan---
fyi, the Vatican has ordered that LifeTeen stop that abuse NOW. along with the altar gathering. the program has now told all parishes of this, and they are to enforce it.

it really depends on the parish as to what style of music it is... the softer it is, the more reverent it is, in my opinion. our parish is forming a band (with me as as keyboards ) that has decided NOT to play in Mass (at the request of Father), for we don't want to have the possibility of destracting the attention from the Presence in the Mass.

[let_go_let_God]

The LT I went to was just a normal mass with the exception of the music. We did the Creed, never gathered around the alter, but the music was always a lil more contemporary and the message in the homily a lil more geared for the students, but still relateable to the adults who were present. LT is an awesome program in my area, it just needs a little boost from the kids. The LT coordnaters always found it ironic that most of the kids came from other parishes with a min of 30 miles away than the local parish.

[ilovechrist]

^^

lglg, i've seen it, the program really does have that kind of effect. i really love their focus on the Eucharist... its incredible. i used to question the program, but now... now i'm 100% ready to bring it to St. B!!!

[nikkan_hanil]

Dude, your avatar rules.

[img]http://phorum.phatmass.com/uploads/av-857.jpg[/img]

[geetarplayer]

LifeTeen has its faults, but the Vatican fully supports it and alerts them when they are making Liturgical abuses. For instance, Msgr. Dale Fushek, founder of LifeTeen, has announced that there will no longer be altar calls during the Mass. I understand that there is some discussion being made about the alternate ending they say ("The Mass never ends...")

LifeTeen puts an incredible emphasis on love for the Eucharist in Holy Communion and Adoration. Their conferences and camps are powerful and life-changing. I support LifeTeen. In my parish, we have over 150 teens registered in our LifeTeen program. It really does what it says it does: it leads teens closer to Christ. Atleast, that's what it did for me.

-Mark

[ilovechrist]

hey Mark!
there were a lot of Florida groups @ FUS-Atlanta.. i couldn't tell which one you were with

[let_go_let_God]

Ok, 2 things

A) I didn't think my avitar would get such high remarks. *thinks "I wonder what they would think if it turned into a biffy?"*

anyway back to topic...

B) It's a bummer that I just graduated so I can't exactly be a part of LT any more, but I'm going to see if I can help with LT in a parish near where I'm going to school, or stay in contact with my "former" YM and help with LT at the parish I went too. LT has had a huge impact on me and a bunch of my buddies. This is something I want to help with, even if it's just by me praying for it's success.

[ilovechrist]

does anyone know where i can get a copy of Tom Booth's Mass of Life music??

[cmotherofpirl]

For all you lovers of Lifeteen I have a question.

What happens when you have to go to normal Masses like the rest of us? Where the music can be insipid, the homily can totally irrelevant, and the whole thing sort of blah and you don't "get" anytrhing out of it?

I really worry about all the people who have outgrown the lifeteen program. Are they going to stay Catholic or are they so addicted to the "feel" of lifeteen Masses they leave the Church for the new generic christian feel-good services?

Many Generic christians go to church because it feels good, its not a Sunday obligation to them. Catholics go to Mass because if you don't you have committed a mortal sin. So on any given Sunday, you will find some Catholics at Mass not because they are happy to be there, but because it is an obligation and an act of will. They are obedient even when they don't feel good about it.

Everyone goes thru spiritual dryness, sometimes for years. Mother Teresa went thru it for 20 -3- YEARS when she got NO spiritual consolations at all.

Are kids who have gone thru the Lifeteen feel goodies going to be able to exercise their Catholic will when its not fun anymore?