Will you get the vaccine?

[dominicansoul]

13 minutes ago, hakutaku said:

Have you checked the beam in your own eye, brother?

Lol, Merck would probably agree with me .  Besides I’m speculating about an entire industry, in this case Big Pharma,  not using elementary level insults to get my points across.  
 

I’ll probably block you cos you really don’t add anything to the debate at hand, just insult people for thinking different than you…  that’s you’re prerogative.  It’s mine to ignore your noise.  

[hakutaku]

42 minutes ago, dominicansoul said:

Besides I’m speculating about an entire industry, in this case Big Pharma,  not using elementary level insults to get my points across.  

It does look like my points have gotten across though, since you've resorted to whining that I'm not being politically correct enough about alternative medicine.  That's not what would have happened if I tried to make dry boring arguments with dry boring science articles. 

The beam I'm talking about is this: why did you bother looking up alternative medicine in the first place?  You've already given the answer:

You knew some people who died from COVID in the hospital.  Instead of interpreting this as "wow, even the experts are having a hard time, this must be a serious disease that we should take seriously"  you decided "the experts are running an expensive scam, the amateurs drinking cheap cow urine must be right."

Ignoring the fact that the people running your cow urine clinic are also profiting from your business, you're basically impugning the motives of the entire medical community across the entire globe.

 

1 hour ago, dominicansoul said:

I'll ever be unconscious because #1 I'm vaccinated

Great, fantastic, good for you!  That is the socially responsible thing to do.

1 hour ago, dominicansoul said:

#2, I'm being prescribed ivermectin as a prophylatic  by a doctor.  She's told me if I ever get Covid (which isn't likely), their clinic provides emergency care.  It's a little different than a hospital, because they have a protocol using ~~alternative medications that seem to show promise~~ cow urine.

Aaaand this is the irresponsible thing to do.

Edited October 25, 2021 by hakutaku

[fides' Jack]

On 10/25/2021 at 9:36 AM, hakutaku said:

People treating themselves instead of getting vaccinated increases my risk of being exposed and contracting COVID

A look back on this claim proves it false 3 months later.  The CDC, WHO, and the Biden Administration have ALL agreed now that the vaccines never prevented transmission or infection, so what other people do never increased or decreased your risk of anything.

Science: 0
Cow-urine-drinkers: 1

Keep trusting science.

[fides' Jack]

https://banned.video/watch?id=61e5c97eaf1fcf7b54e28a0a

People researched the phone number that this call was connected to as seen on the phone on the video and found it to be a hospital in Chichester, UK.  The doctor on the call is a representative of NHS.

This broke originally on Twitter, but this video is InfoWars finding it.  I don't normally go to InfoWars, as I think they DO promote some conspiracy theories that are probably nothing more than theories.  That being said, if this video is not a fake, there's even more reason to avoid the jabs.

The medical industry is NOT on your side.  Your personal doctor might be, but your doctor's medical sources are not.

Some months ago I posted a word document with some prayers on it.  Because people don't normally post docx documents here, it looked fishy and was dismissed as such.

For those of you who HAVE taken the shot, I just want to remind you that when things start getting scary over the next year, there IS a solution for you.  You need not be afraid.  Turn back to God.  Pray the Litany of the Precious Blood daily.  Ask Our Lord to let His Precious Blood wash over you to remove the effects of the poison that you took.  Trust in God.  Invoke the Divine Mercy.  Ask the Blessed Virgin to intercede for you.  Do all of this daily.  You might have to suffer, but if you turn away from the false god of "science" and turn back to Him, He will not abandon you.

[TowerOneTwo]

I'm new to these threads, but will put my perspective here anyway:

At this point, those who caught the virus and have chosen to not be subsequently vaccinated have been completely vindicated by the year-long compilation of studies from every corner of the world. It turns out, in terms of natural immunity, that this virus and vaccine follow the same science we've known for decades: that natural immunity is more broadly acting (no possible scientific argument exists against this) and lasts longer (original argument against this has been utterly rejected as the vaccines efficacy grows shorter and shorter with every subsequent shot) than we were told. 

This isn't to say people should choose to go get infected instead of getting the vaccine. But what it does do is vindicate all COVID survivors who rejected the vaccine as completely unnecessary and were then subjected to public shaming and firing. There was never much of a robust scientific argument *for* vaccinating COVID survivors, and now there's absolutely none. They should be rehired and back-paid. And I'm not joking in the least. Complete sham that went against everything we knew about viral immunity and all who tried to stand up for actual science was written off as a MAGA conspiracist. 

In terms of people who are still unvaccinated... the benefits of the vaccine keep proving exaggerated or transient. The one exception seems to be the suppression of severe symptoms. That's a major benefit. But, when very large swaths of the public are at extremely low risk for severe symptoms anyway, mass vaccinations of low risk populations were never going to save many lives, especially when the vaccine has also been proven to not prevent catching or spreading. The reason a lot of studies show higher case rates among unvax is precisely because they're hit with more symptoms more quickly, so they get tested far more often. The number of silent spreaders among the vaccinated is what led to the worldwide outbreak of Delta strand. Delta acts too quickly to be spread effectively in large unvaccinated populations. Again, because symptoms cause interventions. Sick people, especially in an environment of hyper awareness of a virus, stay home. Who catches the virus then stays out in public? The people whose symptoms are suppressed with the vaccine. There are a ton of graphs from May - July showing Delta spiking *precisely* in countries with the highest vaccination rates. Delta used the vaccinated as the highway and put all unvaxxed on their backs as it sped by. 

In summary:

1. There is no evidence at all anymore that the vaccine is better than natural immunity, despite 12 months of insistence from a medico-political elite that thoroughly ignored all data coming out from all other corners of the world.

2. This was never a pandemic of the unvaccinated, even though they bore the brunt of the suffering. This was a viral pandemic that ran its natural course against which we were deceptively sold a not-very-effective vaccine. Time has proven that statement true despite 12 months of really bad science trying desperately to paint every picture as a win for the vaccine despite growing evidence that it was creating more problems than we were being told. And it was entirely predicted from Day 1 by hundreds of epidemiologists and virologists around the world.