cure for the pandemic

[little2add]

CLEANLINESS IS NEXT TO GODLINESS

August 20, 2021

“For this very reason make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these things are yours and abound, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.” -2 Peter 1:5-8

Purity of body and Spirit is the best defense against diseases of any kind.

The Covid virus festered and grew in the filth and moral decay of the world.  The cure can be found in good hygiene and respect for the teaching of Jesus Christ and the holy trinity. 

JMJ

 

[ZeroM]

Agreed, but in the meantime get vaccinated.  

[fides' Jack]

Get vaccinated if you want.  Personally, just out of moral prudence I think it would be best to wait a few years:

https://principia-scientific.com/doctor-heart-failure-from-mrna-jabs-will-kill-most-people/

[ZeroM]

That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.  Trash science.  

[fides' Jack]

2 hours ago, ZeroM said:

That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.  Trash science.  

Which part specifically doesn't make sense to you?

Easy to just call it trash science so you don't have to admit that we might be making a huge mistake.  The thing is, there are a bunch of doctors saying the same thing, and have been since shortly after the shots were introduced.

If, in a few years, we don't have mass deaths occurring with people who took the shot (or mass deaths for other reasons that could potentially be attributed to people who took the shot), I'll still be able to say that at the time, it was prudent to avoid the shot, because there were too many unknowns.  And there are other, more important reasons not to take it than simply the possibility of losing one's life...

[hakutaku]

23 hours ago, fides' Jack said:

Which part specifically doesn't make sense to you?

Several parts are clearly loony toons!

For a comprehensive debunking of his claims, see here:

https://byrambridle.com/

[little2add]

washing of your your face and hands, frequently is your best defense against the caro-na.

 

On 8/20/2021 at 5:28 AM, little2add said:

CLEANLINESS IS NEXT TO GODLINESS

 

[Anomaly]

1 hour ago, little2add said:

washing of your your face and hands, frequently is your best defense against the caro-na.

 

 

What recent and peer reviewed study are you referencing that determined the vast majority of infections is from touching instead of aspiration (breathing)?
 

   If the vast majority of transmission/infection is NOT from touching, then washing hands would not be your best defense.  

[hakutaku]

On 8/24/2021 at 3:07 AM, fides' Jack said:

I'll still be able to say that at the time, it was prudent to avoid the shot, because there were too many unknowns

The FDA knew enough to approve the vaccine.  The "unknowns" are only unknown to people who went out of their way to get themselves confused by quackery.

[little2add]

10 hours ago, Anomaly said:

the vast majority of transmission/infection is

ingestion, inhalation, Dermal, endogenous

 

consider the absorption rate of the human forehead.

The body's natural  immune system protects nose, mouth and throat, however our immune system does little to protect from infection through your palms forehead, scalp etc.

That is why the simple act of washing with soap and water is so important to prevent airborne illnesses

 

[KnightofChrist]

"Countries with the highest vaccination rates, up to 80-90% of the population, still experience significant epidemic Iceland, for example, where 81% of the total population have been vaccinated (compared to 67% in Israel), iscurrently experiencing the highest wave of morbidity it has experienced since the onset of the pandemic [17]."

- Source: https://pecc-il.org/docs/position-paperthe-science-and-the-ethics-regarding-the-risk-posed-by-non-vaccinated-individuals/

 

[Mercedes]

35 minutes ago, KnightofChrist said:

"Countries with the highest vaccination rates, up to 80-90% of the population, still experience significant epidemic Iceland, for example, where 81% of the total population have been vaccinated (compared to 67% in Israel), iscurrently experiencing the highest wave of morbidity it has experienced since the onset of the pandemic [17]."

- Source: https://pecc-il.org/docs/position-paperthe-science-and-the-ethics-regarding-the-risk-posed-by-non-vaccinated-individuals/

 

That claim is simply untrue.  The statistics up until today show that this year there was one death in Iceland on May 26 which is the only death this year despite the uptick in infections.  Also "Despite the rise in cases, there were only 18 hospitalised COVID cases nationwide at the time of publication".

I would strike your site as a reliable source of information.

 

[KnightofChrist]

14 minutes ago, Mercedes said:

That claim is simply untrue.  The statistics up until today show that this year there was one death in Iceland on May 26 which is the only death this year despite the uptick in infections.  Also "Despite the rise in cases, there were only 18 hospitalised COVID cases nationwide at the time of publication".

I would strike your site as a reliable source of information.

 

 

mor·bid·i·ty

the condition of suffering from a disease or medical condition.

the rate of disease in a population.

Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=morbidity&oq=morbidity

[Mercedes]

9 minutes ago, KnightofChrist said:

 

mor·bid·i·ty

the condition of suffering from a disease or medical condition.

the rate of disease in a population.

Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=morbidity&oq=morbidity

I stand corrected.  On re reading the article I see it as an essentially pro vaccine piece.

[fides' Jack]

On 8/25/2021 at 10:51 AM, hakutaku said:

The FDA knew enough to approve the vaccine.  The "unknowns" are only unknown to people who went out of their way to get themselves confused by quackery.

The FDA was under enormous pressure to fast-track the approval without due diligence.

The whole thing is demonic.  You'll see that when you are supposed to.

[hakutaku]

26 minutes ago, fides' Jack said:

The FDA was under enormous pressure to fast-track the approval without due diligence.

Emergencies like pandemics put everyone under pressure.  It would be weirder if there was no pressure in an emergency. 

 

28 minutes ago, fides' Jack said:

The whole thing is demonic.  You'll see that when you are supposed to.

No it isn't.  Can you give time bounds on when people will "see?"  in the next 1 year?  5 years?  10 years?

[fides' Jack]

7 minutes ago, hakutaku said:

Emergencies like pandemics put everyone under pressure.  It would be weirder if there was no pressure in an emergency. 

Agreed.  But not enough to justify completely foregoing all animal tests in a brand-spanking-new "vaccine" using a very new technology.

 

7 minutes ago, hakutaku said:

No it isn't.  Can you give time bounds on when people will "see?"  in the next 1 year?  5 years?  10 years?

I'm 99% sure it will happen within 10 years.  99.9% that it'll be within 15 years.  Very possibly within 1 year, but the longer time goes on, the more certain it's going to happen.  4 years ago, I had no confidence that it would be within a century.

But I'm not absolutely positive with any of these numbers.  As Scripture tells us, no one knows the day or the hour.  However, the closer we get, the more clearly we will know.

I pray that when it does happen, you do not reject His grace. (nor I, for that matter)

Edited August 28, 2021 by fides' Jack

[ReasonableFaith]

11 hours ago, fides' Jack said:

But not enough to justify completely foregoing all animal tests in a brand-spanking-new "vaccine" using a very new technology.

 

Huh?  

Johnson & Johnson:

https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-announces-that-janssens-covid-19-investigational-vaccine-candidate-prevents-severe-clinical-disease-in-pre-clinical-studies

Pfizer:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-data-preclinical-studies-mrna
 

Moderna:

https://www.biospace.com/article/in-challenge-studies-with-monkeys-moderna-s-vaccine-protected-against-covid-19/

[little2add]

Natural immunity provides 13 times more protection against Delta than Pfizer's vaccine does, according to a Large Israeli study.  

LINK:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

 

[Peace]

15 minutes ago, little2add said:

Natural immunity provides 13 times more protection against Delta than Pfizer's vaccine does, according to a Large Israeli study.  

LINK:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

 

Sure, but that's not much consolation for the people who are infected by the virus and die from it. Whatever benefits there are from natural immunity, they can still be had with people taking the vaccine:

The study demonstrates the power of the human immune system, but infectious disease experts emphasized that this vaccine and others for COVID-19 nonetheless remain highly protective against severe disease and death. And they caution that intentional infection among unvaccinated people would be extremely risky. “What we don’t want people to say is: ‘All right, I should go out and get infected, I should have an infection party.’” says Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University who researches the immune response to SARS-CoV-2 and was not involved in the study. “Because somebody could die.”

The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated. The new work could inform discussion of whether previously infected people need to receive both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or the similar mRNA vaccine from Moderna. Vaccine mandates don’t necessarily exempt those who had a SARS-CoV-2 infection already and the current U.S. recommendation is that they be fully vaccinated, which means two mRNA doses or one of the J&J adenovirus-based vaccine. Yet one mRNA dose might be enough, some scientists argue. And other countries including Germany, France, Italy, and Israel administer just one vaccine dose to previously infected people.