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conservativecatholic
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[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Jul 15 2004, 06:07 PM'] Sure, I agree with you 100%, however, anyone who says that these good works contribute one iota to our legal standing in righteousness before God is lying and headed for the lake of fire for teaching 'another gospel' [/quote]
You have no right to say who will be saved and who will be condemned. You stated that anyone who teaches or believes in salvation by works and faith will not inherit the kingdom of God. This planet presently is inhabited by 1.05 billion Catholics. You truly believe that 1.05 billion people will burn for eternity because of this belief? What a joke! :D

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1337 k4th0l1x0r
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[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Jul 15 2004, 06:07 PM'] Sure, I agree with you 100%, however, anyone who says that these good works contribute one iota to our legal standing in righteousness before God is lying and headed for the lake of fire for teaching 'another gospel' [/quote]
I leave you with these verses, which could speak for themselves as a refutation, but I'll still state my point here. These verses show judgement based on works done when faith still exists. Those thrown into the eternal fire clearly believed in Jesus, but did not reflect that in their works. Those who did show their faith in their works were rewarded with salvation. Both had faith, but only those with good works were saved.

Matthew 25, 31-46 (NAB)

"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.' Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?' And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?' He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

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ooh Thank you for putting those verses up there because I think my post with verses concerning good works was over looked lol

conservativecatholic
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[quote name='StColette' date='Jul 15 2004, 06:52 PM'] ooh Thank you for putting those verses up there because I think my post with verses concerning good works was over looked lol [/quote]
I saw your post. Thanks for the biblical verses. :)

1337 k4th0l1x0r
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Sometimes you just have to emphasize the same stuff over and over :)

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lol yeah i know :) sometimes i feel like a record playing over and over again on repeat lol

and yw CC :)

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