The Issue Of Modest Swimwear

[dUSt]

Modesty is subjective. I don't think there's anything wrong with wearing normal bathing suits as long as they cover up all the right parts. Common sense goes a long way.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='p0lar_bear' date='Jul 28 2004, 02:07 PM'] Off topic:

Welcome back popestpiusx. [/quote]
Thank you, my friend!

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='catholicguy' date='Jul 28 2004, 04:28 PM'] PSPX,
I apologize. I did not realize that they were speaking specifically of those designs, but my point was that if the only feasible design is ugly then the only options are 1) wear the ugly design or 2) do not swim. God bless. [/quote]
I agree in principle, but I don't think the only feasible design must be ugly.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Jul 28 2004, 05:23 PM'] Modesty is subjective. I don't think there's anything wrong with wearing normal bathing suits as long as they cover up all the right parts. Common sense goes a long way. [/quote]
We would have to clarify what we mean when we say "subjective" and "right parts".

[Theoketos]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Jul 28 2004, 04:23 PM'] Modesty is subjective. I don't think there's anything wrong with wearing normal bathing suits as long as they cover up all the right parts. Common sense goes a long way. [/quote]
In [i]Love and Responsibility[/i] Karol Wojtyla, use of common sense is exhonerated with regrad to this issue. Basically what the would be then future Pope writes is that swim wear is good for swimming, but one should not wear it walking around.

I do not have the book with me, I loaned to a friend, but I believe it to be on page 192.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Jul 28 2004, 04:41 PM'] Two people can be wearing exactly the same clothes and one person can look very modest while the other looks immodest. It's all about the attitude and expression individuals have in presenting themselves. [/quote]
This I vehemently disagree with.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='God Conquers' date='Jul 28 2004, 03:01 PM'] Those bathing suits are OBJECTIVELY UGLY. [/quote]
Are you admitting that there is objective ugliness? Oh, how I could have used you in earlier denates.

By the way, I agree. They are quite frumpy.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jul 28 2004, 02:41 PM'] How are you supposed to SWIM in that get-up.?
It will go over really well with the competitive swimmers and divers
It will be wonderful on a surfboard.

I'll wear one as long as the men wear EXACTLY the same thing. No I don't want to see mens legs - too hairy- so men will have to cover up down to their ankles. [/quote]
I swam just fine fully clothed (long pants, boots, helmet, rifle, flack jacket, and pack) in the Marines. If people can swin in that condition without issue then people can swim in the clothing advertised on the link.

I already said that I'm sure it was not designed for competition use.

[pionono]

Say what you all want, but it is still better than half naked 12 year olds running around the beach.

[geetarplayer]

Quite honestly I have no problem when the girls I know just wear shorts and a shirt over their bikinis. To me that's perfectly modest, and it doesn't have to cost too much, either!

-Mark

[HomeTeamFamily]

i do not see anything wrong with a girl wearing a onepiece like speedo or tyr swimsuit to the pool......keeping in mind practicality and modesty, it, to me is the best alternative

i agree on the 12 year olds running around in bikinis.....im a lifeguard at the YMCA and ive seen my fair share of immodest swimsuits

[Donna]

The designs don't need that much work to be Ok in my book.

A little nip here and there can make all the difference.

Cool.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='jmjtina' date='Jul 28 2004, 11:21 AM'] wow, i admire them for making those swimsuits, but I have to agree that they need to be worked on. (alot) and aren't they just TOO expensive? I thought dishing out 30 bucks was expensive, but $89?
[/quote]
Yeah, but look at all the fabric you get for $89.

[jmjtina]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jul 29 2004, 02:10 AM'] Yeah, but look at all the fabric you get for $89. [/quote]
With all that fabric, won't we sink?

so that defeats the whole purpose of the swimwear, right?

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='jmjtina' date='Jul 29 2004, 12:13 AM'] With all that fabric, won't we sink?

so that defeats the whole purpose of the swimwear, right? [/quote]
Perhaps you would sink, but you sink in a very modest way.

[jmjtina]

:crackup:

[justfran]

Long live singlets and board shorts!

[Guest JeffCR07]

[quote]Two people can be wearing exactly the same clothes and one person can look very modest while the other looks immodest. It's all about the attitude and expression individuals have in presenting themselves.[/quote]

I also disagree with this: two people wearing nothing are equally immodest

Also, I think a lot of good things have been said on this thread. My outlook is this:

1.) Modesty is necessary in all things

2.) The world does not exactly promote modesty

3.) Acting and Dressing modestly is, in many cases, largly subjective, depending on the situtation that one is is
[i]subpoint[/i]: a starving ethiopian is not "immodest" if he cannot afford clothes beyond a loincloth
[i]more realistic subpoint[/i]: Following the example of the Holy Father: if someone is wearing a one-piece swimsuit while they are in the water, and the extent of their "walking around" is to go from the water to a towel/more clothes then that is perfectly modest. If someone is wearing a bikini and walking up and down the boardwalk in it, that would be immodest.

- Your Brother In Christ, Jeff