MC Just Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) I cannot stand this man. i cannot stand this "America will change the world" BS. It's the Churches job to change the world and be the beacon of light not america!!! Isnt the Anti-Christ called "the Destroyer" this man was born in the army. Edited July 30, 2004 by MC Just
ironmonk Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) Ditto. I pity him. Did you hear that his little army footage at the demo convention was reinacted after the fact? [color=red]edited[/color] I think it's time to make some T-shirts. God Bless, ironmonk Edited July 31, 2004 by cmotherofpirl
MC Just Posted July 30, 2004 Author Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jul 29 2004, 10:03 PM'] Ditto. I pity him. Did you hear that his little army footage at the demo convention was reinacted after the fact? edited I think it's time to make some T-shirts. God Bless, ironmonk [/quote] Tell me about it....So much pride. Edited July 31, 2004 by foundsheep
DancesforLove Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 I hate John Kerry!!! Plus it turns out he didn't have 3 purple hearts or something like that. And theres very little they can do to improve america we have to improve america, we the people. They can't make us change, only we can make us change. and the chances of me listening to some racist, blueblood, democrat are none.
MC Just Posted July 30, 2004 Author Posted July 30, 2004 [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Jul 29 2004, 10:13 PM'] I hate John Kerry!!! Plus it turns out he didn't have 3 purple hearts or something like that. And theres very little they can do to improve america we have to improve america, we the people. They can't make us change, only we can make us change. and the chances of me listening to some racist, blueblood, democrat are none. [/quote] The Church is the one with the Authority, Faith and Power to change nations and the world not some Godless government.
catholicguy Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Jul 29 2004, 10:13 PM'] I hate John Kerry!!! Plus it turns out he didn't have 3 purple hearts or something like that. And theres very little they can do to improve america we have to improve america, we the people. They can't make us change, only we can make us change. and the chances of me listening to some racist, blueblood, democrat are none. [/quote] Yes the DNC would incite anyone to anger, but we cannot hate John Kerry, no matter how evil he is. I decided not to watch his speach because it would be a bunch of democrat nonsense propaganda... saves useless anger management problems. God bless. Oh, by the way, I just put a "Visualize No Liberals" bumpersticker on my car, with a sufficient 90 days before the election. (Right next to my: Restore the Latin Mass sticker) Edited July 30, 2004 by catholicguy
M.SIGGA Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 I really liked his speech this evening and it was really moving that the Vietnam vets who served with him came out to honor their friend. Whoever managed this campaign did a much better job than Donna Brazile.
DancesforLove Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 lol nice bumper sticker. Well hate is a strong word I will just say I STRONGLY dislike him and would never vote for him.
Good Friday Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk']Kerry is a crook, along with all who vote for him.[/quote] This is an obvious violation of the phorum guidelines. Besides the personal attack on Sen. Kerry, if there are any Kerry voters here, it's also a personal attack on them... Not to mention the strong implication in the first post that anyone born in an army hospital is a destroyer and anti-Christ. Is this necessary? More importantly, is this Catholic?
Kathryn Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 I don't like the man, but I don't think Catholics are free to hate him. We should be praying for him, and praying that he's not elected.
Don John of Austria Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) [quote]The Church is the one with the Authority, Faith and Power to change nations and the world not some Godless government[/quote] The Church has no Power at all that is the Problem.[quote]I really liked his speech this evening and it was really moving that the Vietnam vets who served with him came out to honor their friend. Whoever managed this campaign did a much better job than Donna Brazile[/quote] The man precided over a slaughter of civilians, one where even the babies were bayoneted. At any rate he said he was there for these thing and as a commissioned officer it was his DUty to stop them even if that required useing his side arm on his own men. He is a Monster and hopefully he'll recieve the only fate monsters deserve, defeat. Edited July 30, 2004 by Don John of Austria
Apotheoun Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Kathryn' date='Jul 29 2004, 11:10 PM'] I don't like the man, but I don't think Catholics are free to hate him. We should be praying for him, and praying that he's not elected. [/quote] Yes, we all should be praying for the man. Based on the public positions he has taken in opposition to the natural moral law (on abortion, homosexual marriage, etc.) he is endangering his immortal soul, and is doing harm to public morals and the common good of society. I know that I will be praying for his conversion to Catholicism; and that, for his own good and for the good of the nation, he not get elected to any public office. Edited July 30, 2004 by Apotheoun
ironmonk Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 [quote name='M.SIGGA' date='Jul 30 2004, 12:51 AM'] I really liked his speech this evening and it was really moving that the Vietnam vets who served with him came out to honor their friend. Whoever managed this campaign did a much better job than Donna Brazile. [/quote] Those where not the real vets that served with him... There might have been one or two. The man is a liar. This says it all... the men who actually served with him say he's unfit to be President.... [url="http://www.swiftvets.com/"]http://www.swiftvets.com/[/url] God Bless, ironmonk
ironmonk Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Good Friday' date='Jul 30 2004, 02:36 AM'] [quote name='ironmonk']Kerry is a crook, along with all who vote for him.[/quote] This is an obvious violation of the phorum guidelines. Besides the personal attack on Sen. Kerry, if there are any Kerry voters here, it's also a personal attack on them... Not to mention the strong implication in the first post that anyone born in an army hospital is a destroyer and anti-Christ. Is this necessary? More importantly, is this Catholic? [/quote] No it's not an attack. It's the truth. A liar is a thief of the truth... the man is crooked, anyone who "changes" their stance depending on who they are talking to is crooked, therefore a crook. Anyone who would vote for him either is a crook or totally clueless about the man. YES it is Catholic. We are to hate what is evil. See: [url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07149b.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07149b.htm[/url] ...(odium abominationis, or loathing) is that in which the intense dislike is concentrated primarily on the qualities or attributes of a person, and only secondarily, and as it were derivatively, upon the person himself. ....The first-named species of hatred, in so far as it implies the reprobation of what is actually evil, is not a sin and may even represent a virtuous temper of soul. In other words, not only may I, but I even ought to, hate what is contrary to the moral law. Furthermore one may without sin go so far in the detestation of wrongdoing as to wish that which for its perpetrator is a very well-defined evil, yet under another aspect is a much more signal good. For instance, it would be lawful to pray for the death of a perniciously active heresiarch with a view to putting a stop to his ravages among the Christian people. Of course, it is clear that this apparent zeal must not be an excuse for catering to personal spite or party rancour. .... -ironmonk Edited July 30, 2004 by ironmonk
Ellenita Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 [quote]The man precided over a slaughter of civilians[/quote] There are many in the world who believe this charge could also be laid at Bush's feet aswell. The title of this thread does no service to anyone at Phatmass or lurkers who happen to be reading it. The equation of 'right wing' politics and Catholicism is quite offensive to some of us here.....
universal Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 It's God's place to judge people, we can judge the vice or virtue of actions but not people. We do not know Kerry's heart, and the other fullah ain't much better anyway.
Theoketos Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 [quote name='M.SIGGA' date='Jul 29 2004, 10:51 PM'] I really liked his speech this evening and it was really moving that the Vietnam vets who served with him came out to honor their friend. Whoever managed this campaign did a much better job than Donna Brazile. [/quote] The same friend who gave him his metals so that Kerry could throw them at the white house, because he was to chicken to throw his own.
MC Just Posted July 30, 2004 Author Posted July 30, 2004 Thank You Ironmonk!!!! I agree 100% See no attacks...
mmmerf Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 [quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Jul 30 2004, 04:29 AM'] The Church has no Power at all that is the Problem. [/quote] *cough*tell THAT to Gorbachev*cough*
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