How To Combat Athesim?

[MorphRC]

Lourdes cant be just a hoax... Ive read over 20 books and articles from Catholic sites, even non-catholic scientists are amazed by it. I think in one local paper, the Southern cross, 3 atheist scientists converted to Catholicism.

[Crusader_4]

You can use natural law i find that to be very effective. Since they follow natural law quite often in many ways that is a good way to apply it to them. For example ask him if we are here from a random experiment wrong and right have no bearing ask him then who actually is a better person Blessed Teresa or Hitler...since according to atheism there is no right or wrong.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

The Handbook of Christian Apologetics is good book on the issue. THe author, Peter Kreeft, proves God's existence on his website too:
[url="http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm"]http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm[/url]

My favorite is the "first cause" arguement.

[reelguy227]

thanks again everyone :-)

[MorphRC]

Try and get a book called 'Creation' its by some guy called Jeffery...cant remember last name, he aint catholic, but the book is apparently an athiests nightmare - IE: Theres a God undoubtly.

[Crusader_4]

Actually Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis is pretty good in this regard.

[mattosika]

PRAYER and read some of the apoligetics stuff on pm Thomas Aquanios I think was a big converter

[reelguy227]

thanks everyone again ,ill have to look into that book morph.there are three questions that they always want an answer to :

1.How do yu prove God exists? If it cannot be proven it doesnt exist.

how do i answer that one?

2.How can an all-powerfull, loing and caring God let so many people suffer?

Either he isn't all powerful, or not loving and caring...

how do i answer that one?

3.(this is from an agnostics point of view) why should i except your God over all the others ?

[reelguy227]

morph your going to have to find the last name of the author ,i cant find the book?

[MichaelFilo]

Research, if you want.

What to research?

The 2nd law of thermodynamics.

No God... no existance.

God bless,

Mikey

[reelguy227]

thanks ,so many resources to study ,i better hit the books.

[MorphRC]

Creation

[url="http://www.armageddonbooks.com/grant.html"]http://www.armageddonbooks.com/grant.html[/url]

This book explores the powerful new evidence discovered in the last few decades by scientific research in astronomy, the nature of the atom and DNA. These discoveries have caused a revolution in the world view of thousands of scientists as they were confronted with compelling new evidence that our universe must have been created by a Supernatural Mind. Creation will challenge readers with fascinating new information that confirms the Bible's claim that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." 282 pages, paper, bibliography.

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

We can not convert anyone...Yes, we can educate people, and maybe 'convert their minds' but what good is the mind if the heart doesn't follow...It takes love for conversion...thats the only way.

I would say that the best thing to do is just be Christ for them...So that from knowing you they can come to know Christ.

Also check out the Phatmass reference section.

Ave Maria,

Andy

PS what is the Forum?

[White Knight]

If you wanna fight it with Basic and Advanced Science you can, but Prayer is a better weapon.

[reelguy227]

ya prayer is the best weapon .yu guys should join the forum ,that would be funny ,we would totally shut those atheists and agnosts up .the forum is www.swbattlefront.net
,register with the site ,yu just have to give your email address and make up a name and password i think ,then you should click on forums ,then click on the sliced tauntaun,the discussion threads names are ,republicans come here ,why do yu believe in God?,and usa succesor ,yu could just come onto the forum and watch the debate. yu can just do what i said above ,but just not register to be with the forum.

[White Knight]

[quote name='reelguy227' date='Aug 11 2004, 01:03 PM'] ya prayer is the best weapon .yu guys should join the forum ,that would be funny ,we would totally shut those atheists and agnosts up .the forum is www.swbattlefront.net
,register with the site ,yu just have to give your email address and make up a name and password i think ,then you should click on forums ,then click on the sliced tauntaun,the discussion threads names are ,republicans come here ,why do yu believe in God?,and usa succesor ,yu could just come onto the forum and watch the debate. yu can just do what i said above ,but just not register to be with the forum. [/quote]
Ahhh man didn't know it was a Star Wars site, lol, oh well, its just a movie franchise, a really popluar one that is. Sure I'll help ya ASAP.If I can't sign up under a famlair name, then I'll just go under a Star Wars Name.

Be There When I get back.

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

reelguy...if you are going to prove that God exist's...you haveto have patience.

Ave Maria,

Andy

[Philippe]

check this out... this is a response to the "life was an accident"

ok so if life was an accident, then thought was an accident so that first thought and every other thought after it is an accident so, the thought that life is an accident, is an accident.

[reelguy227]

i do have patience fiat ,its just sometimes i want to rip my hair out with these people and shake them ,they are just so stubborn in their beliefs and every miracle to them is a hoax ,i cant take it anymore ,but i will be patient and fight the good fight.

[White Knight]

[quote name='reelguy227' date='Aug 11 2004, 03:02 PM'] i do have patience fiat ,its just sometimes i want to rip my hair out with these people and shake them ,they are just so stubborn in their beliefs and every miracle to them is a hoax ,i cant take it anymore ,but i will be patient and fight the good fight. [/quote]
Thats cool, well I'm going to try signing up now, I tryed earlier, but the forums were down. I'll cya there.