Dave Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 can you also tell me which cd i have playing at the moment?? you can't tell me that i don't have something that only I would be able to know for myself... i'm listening to the supertones live. Totally irrelevant.
skuba steve Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 what...? so you can dictate my life to me over the internet?? cool. You don't know who i am,. You can't prove that God isn't sitting beside me in person eating corn flakes right now... I don't see how you all can think that what i know is real is somehow not real because the catholic church says it isn't. If the catholic church said that i was female, you would believe that too... however, i noticed i wasn't this morning in the shower.
Dave Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 I'll ignore those comments, as they're nothing more than rants and rhetoric than meaningful statements or arguments.
Paladin D Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 God is everywhere, and does appear to people. However, you run into two problems... 1) Anybody can claim God is right next to Him. If it be out of ignorance or deliberate. (I'm not saying He isn't, just pointing that thought out) 2) What purpose does that serve in this thread?
ironmonk Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 If the catholic church said that i was female, you would believe that too... however, i noticed i wasn't this morning in the shower. That's nice that you cleared that up. God Bless, ironmonk
Paladin D Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 (edited) If the catholic church said that i was female, you would believe that too... however, i noticed i wasn't this morning in the shower. Only if you were originally a female, who had a sex change. :lol: Edited September 18, 2003 by Paladin D
Aloysius Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 If the catholic church said that i was female, you would believe that too... however, i noticed i wasn't this morning in the shower. ... the Catholic Church wouldn't say anyone was female. And if it said you were female, i wouldn't necessarily believe it. How is that a matter of faith or morals??????????????
Dave Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 If the catholic church said that i was female, you would believe that too... however, i noticed i wasn't this morning in the shower. You mean you just noticed this morning? I think that's a little more info than I needed to hear! :lol:
skuba steve Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 yeah i was standing there and i looked down and to my amazement there was this umm..... my point was that you can argue about doctrine and beliefs and all the things in this world... but a person's own experience, a person's own thoughts... you can't dictate that to a person... you can't tell me that i didn't have instant noodles before because i did. in the same way that you can't tell me whether or not i feel the presence of God when i take communion because you aren't me....
Jake Huether Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 yeah i was standing there and i looked down and to my amazement there was this umm..... my point was that you can argue about doctrine and beliefs and all the things in this world... but a person's own experience, a person's own thoughts... you can't dictate that to a person... you can't tell me that i didn't have instant noodles before because i did. in the same way that you can't tell me whether or not i feel the presence of God when i take communion because you aren't me.... I'm sure you "feel" the presence of God, as God is all around us ALL the time. However, for Catholics, we have the very UNIQUE experience of being able to consume Jesus, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. Not simply to "feel" the presence of God. But to feel the presence of Christ's FLESH in us! To know that the Word Made Flesh is TOUCHING us, as in PHYSICALLY and Spiritually, as apposed to simply spiritually.
Paladin D Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 (edited) my point was that you can argue about doctrine and beliefs and all the things in this world... but a person's own experience, a person's own thoughts... you can't dictate that to a person... you can't tell me that i didn't have instant noodles before because i did. in the same way that you can't tell me whether or not i feel the presence of God when i take communion because you aren't me.... How about those who say the samething with other gods or goddesses? Does it mean they are false too? It can't be, afterall...they did feel his/her presence. I'm not denying that God does not talk to people, but we gotta becareful these days. Edited September 18, 2003 by Paladin D
Paladin D Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 One more thing I would like to point out. You say that God talks to you time to time (not saying He doesn't at all). You feel His presence a lot, and nothing will convince you otherwise, because you feel Him. Well, then why can you claim that our belief in the Eucharist is false? (If I'm wrong, please correct me). Many Catholics feel Christ in the Eucharist, and have had wonderful expierences when consumed. If you want to claim that Christ is not truely present within the form of bread and wine...why can't we say the samething about the presence of God in your life?
ironmonk Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 yeah i was standing there and i looked down and to my amazement there was this umm..... my point was that you can argue about doctrine and beliefs and all the things in this world... but a person's own experience, a person's own thoughts... you can't dictate that to a person... you can't tell me that i didn't have instant noodles before because i did. in the same way that you can't tell me whether or not i feel the presence of God when i take communion because you aren't me.... Jesus was real steve. He was real and He set forth a new Church. There are facts about that new Church. Unless you are in the Church built by Christ, YOU CANNOT HAVE ALL THE FACTS! you can't tell me that i didn't have instant noodles before because i did. If someone told you that you have instant noodles, and they lied or where wrong it was really instant rice, you would believe that it was instant noodles... but it wouldn't really be instant noodles, it would still be instant rice... your belief that the noodles are noodles does not hold up to the fact that you have instant rice. God Bless, ironmonk
ironmonk Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 your belief that the noodles are noodles does not hold up to the fact that you have instant rice. Should read " Your belief that the rice you have is noodles does not make your rice into noodles, it will always be rice, no matter what you believe" God Bless, ironmonk
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