Colleen Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='Anna' date='Aug 16 2004, 07:53 AM']If you're not registered, you can't vote. Your registration is checked at the voting booth. You're registered as [i]something[/i], to be sure, if you're allowed in the voting booth. [/quote] Oh yeah, sorry, I didn't make myself clear. (That's why I shouldn't stay up so late.) I am registered to vote, but I'm not registered as a Republican, even though that is usually how I vote. Sorry for the confusion.
Socrates Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 I'm a conservative first, which in practical terms means I vote Republican, though I believe one should support principles rather than party - there are plenty of bad Republicans out there. (That's a whole other discussion though) The list on the poll is not very complete - Republican and conservative are really not necessarily the same thing - there are non-Republican conservatives, and non-conservative Republicans, for instance. Also there other affiliations, such as Libertarians. I'm for limited government, adherance to the original Constitution, freedom to practice and proclaim one's Faith, freedom to own property and bear arms, the decentralization of power, and law based on protecting human life.
Budge Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 (edited) I couldnt answer the quiz because I do not fit any of the categories. Im a conservative that will be voting third party, probably Constitution party. Im prolife, adherence to Constitution, support second admendment, against gay marriage, against euthanasia etc. I do not support Bush because he supports open immigration, wants to open borders. Trade that it will devastate the American Middle Class,--American interests should be put FIRST--support for corporations that OUTSOURCE, his plan for the world--Read the pro-Bush book..."The Pentagons New Map" to know what that plan is--and PNAC website. Many other reasons too but thats just some of them. One of the latest endless reasons I will not vote for Bush, is his support of foreigners supervising our elections, the OSCE which is UNDER UN auspices. With Kerry it was bad enough but thats something to expect from Kerry, awful under Bush. But then Bush has USA rejoin UNESCO last Sept. Kerry is a wannabe Unitarian-leftist Boho, who is pro-death culture and basically a socialist. Both parties are sold out to globalists, multinational corporations and have endless moneyed hands in their back pockets. They actually share the same agenda while throwing crumbs to Christians on oneside. Anyone really expect a Republican president to DO something about abortion? and the other party throwing crumbs to the liberals and pretending to be for the"little guy" while they eat at the trough. Im an independent Baptist. Edited August 16, 2004 by Budge
dUSt Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 16 2004, 05:26 PM'] American interests should be put FIRST--support for corporations that OUTSOURCE, his plan for the world... [/quote] It doesn't seem very Christian to put American lives on a higher level of importance than non-American lives. Is this what is taught in your church?
Budge Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else.
dUSt Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:33 PM'] Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else. [/quote] But it does help somone else. It helps the people that will have jobs. Why is it more important for Americans to have jobs, rather than non-Americans? So those Americans will give it away? Sounds like welfare on a global scale to me.
Sammy Blaze Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 So many political threads, this must be an election year! lol I love my pham I'm Catholic First, I really dislike politics. I was a Liberal Democrat before really finding my faith... So I'm a Pro-Life Democrat (also anti-gay marriage) I'm really at odds, I am no fan of Bush and If I vote for him, it will be solely for the fact that he can make abortion illegal ( I really doubt he'll actually do that, since he hasn't said anything to prove he's a Pro-Life activist) I think he's a wolf in sheeps clothing but that's me, I pray for him I will not vote for someone who is as Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay Marriage as John Kerry, he's no wolf in sheeps clothing, lol, he shows his inconsistancies for everyone to see, I pray for him also. SO I'll never sacrifice my faith(one big issue of my faith) for a candidate, but will I forsake everything else I believe in (as well as other issues of my faith) and vote for a candidate I dislike?? Someone pray for me Thank God my local US Rep. is on the advisory board of the Democrats for Life... Well that's my .02 Pax Christi ~S. P>S> Oh and for all my pham who dogs on the welfare and civil service systems..... In all due respect: YOU DON'T KNOW, what its like... and be thankful you don't know what its like. Poverty is a culture in itself. Peace!
dUSt Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='Sammy Blaze' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:48 PM'] P>S> Oh and for all my pham who dogs on the welfare and civil service systems..... In all due respect: YOU DON'T KNOW, what its like... and be thankful you don't know what its like. Poverty is a culture in itself. Peace! [/quote] My statement above was in direct response to Budge, who seems to be ultra-conservative, so I assumed he was against welfare. I depended on welfare for a good part of my life. I sorta know what's it like (although I've seen it abused more than used legitimitely).
Azriel Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='Sammy Blaze' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:48 PM'] So many political threads, this must be an election year! lol I love my pham I'm Catholic First, I really dislike politics. I was a Liberal Democrat before really finding my faith... So I'm a Pro-Life Democrat (also anti-gay marriage) I'm really at odds, I am no fan of Bush and If I vote for him, it will be solely for the fact that he can make abortion illegal ( I really doubt he'll actually do that, since he hasn't said anything to prove he's a Pro-Life activist) I think he's a wolf in sheeps clothing but that's me, I pray for him I will not vote for someone who is as Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay Marriage as John Kerry, he's no wolf in sheeps clothing, lol, he shows his inconsistancies for everyone to see, I pray for him also. SO I'll never sacrifice my faith(one big issue of my faith) for a candidate, but will I forsake everything else I believe in (as well as other issues of my faith) and vote for a candidate I dislike?? Someone pray for me Thank God my local US Rep. is on the advisory board of the Democrats for Life... Well that's my .02 Pax Christi ~S. P>S> Oh and for all my pham who dogs on the welfare and civil service systems..... In all due respect: YOU DON'T KNOW, what its like... and be thankful you don't know what its like. Poverty is a culture in itself. Peace! [/quote] Rock on Blaze ...
M.SIGGA Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:33 PM']Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else.[/quote] Unless you define "aid" as meaning we Americans exploit the world's most vulnerable people to better our economy, you are wrong. [quote]Because of these past mistakes, some people in the United States are skeptical about the effectiveness of foreign aid. Nevertheless, a new poll released in this report indicates that 83 percent would favor a targeted program to reduce hunger in the developing world. The poll also shows that [b]most people think the U.S. gives 20 times more in foreign aid than it actually does. In fact, U.S. aid has declined steadily since the Cold War ended, to a fraction of 1 percent of the federal budget. Twenty-one other industrial nations devote a greater percentage of their national income to foreign assistance than the United States does[/b].[/quote] [url="http://www.bread.org/institute/hunger_report/2001.html"]http://www.bread.org/institute/hunger_report/2001.html[/url]
Sammy Blaze Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='Aug 16 2004, 07:10 PM'] My statement above was in direct response to Budge, who seems to be ultra-conservative, so I assumed he was against welfare. I depended on welfare for a good part of my life. I sorta know what's it like (although I've seen it abused more than used legitimitely). [/quote] oohh dUSt, I wasn't directing my comments to really anyone specifically... I've just seen alot of people really dog on the system as of late, and while there are alot of people who take advantage of the system, and other gov't programs, it helps alot of people, I see the blessings everyday from people i know.... Just Blaze! oh i mean Just Clarifying! Pax Christi
MorphRC Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 17 2004, 10:03 AM'] Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else. [/quote] Oh so dUSt had it wrong, you mean American stomachs should be filled with food before others? oh wait, thats the samething dUSt said!
Budge Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 (edited) Oh yes the USA is evil we should turn ourselves over to the United Nations and have them redistribute the wealth. Dont you know those European Globalists will do a better job...of managing our money for us and helping the poor people of the world (sarcastic) Edited August 18, 2004 by Budge
Budge Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 [quote]Oh so dUSt had it wrong, you mean American stomachs should be filled with food before others? oh wait, thats the samething dUSt said![/quote] No we should let our people starve and share all our food with everyone. Then we after handing all our money to the UN to redistribute the wealth to the impoverished nations, we should clean out all our grocery stores, and send the food overseas too, we can send them all our farmers while we are at it too. ...(sarcastic)
JP2Iloveyou Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 My dad and I were having a conversation similar to this today. I am a VERY strong conservative, economicly, socially, you name it. Many of these issues, people can legitimately disagree on because they are not intrinsicly evil. Anyway, I have no problem with giving people a hand up. It's giving people a hand out that I have a problem with. Furthermore, the United States does give more aid than anyone else in the world. As bad as the U.N. is right now, were it not for the U.S. and our involvment, the organization would be totally irrelevant. They are the biggest bunch of cowards I've ever seen. They criticize our involvment in Iraq, then question why we didn't do anything in Liberia. By the way, where was the U.N. last week as more Tutsis were slaughtered at the hands of the Hutu? I agree that materialism is wreaking havoc on morality in the United States, but I do not think that the answer to that problem is to resort to socialism.
Iacobus Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 I am Catholic. If I list more than a Z degrees right I am not Catholic. If I list X degrees left I am not Catholic. Catholic teaching, the teaching of God, doesn't fall neatly into one party or an other. "There is no party of princpil (sp?) but men of princpil in all parties."
MorphRC Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 19 2004, 10:30 AM'] No we should let our people starve and share all our food with everyone. Then we after handing all our money to the UN to redistribute the wealth to the impoverished nations, we should clean out all our grocery stores, and send the food overseas too, we can send them all our farmers while we are at it too. ...(sarcastic) [/quote]
Thy Geekdom Come Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Completely Pro-life (NO abortion, NO death penalty in America, NO contraception) Pro-Family (NO divorce, NO adultery, NO homosexual marriage, unions, or adoption) Anti-Planned Parenthood Anti-Sex Education Anti-National Media Pro-Tax Cuts to Favor Job Growth Anti-Minimum Wage Anti-Union Pro-Tax Credit for Corporations Funding Students Pro-School Vouchers Pro-Faith Based Initiative Anti-Drug Pro-War Against Terror Pro-Troop Realignment
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