Sammy Blaze Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='Aug 16 2004, 07:10 PM'] My statement above was in direct response to Budge, who seems to be ultra-conservative, so I assumed he was against welfare. I depended on welfare for a good part of my life. I sorta know what's it like (although I've seen it abused more than used legitimitely). [/quote] oohh dUSt, I wasn't directing my comments to really anyone specifically... I've just seen alot of people really dog on the system as of late, and while there are alot of people who take advantage of the system, and other gov't programs, it helps alot of people, I see the blessings everyday from people i know.... Just Blaze! oh i mean Just Clarifying! Pax Christi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 17 2004, 10:03 AM'] Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else. [/quote] Oh so dUSt had it wrong, you mean American stomachs should be filled with food before others? oh wait, thats the samething dUSt said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 [b]Free Northern Eire ! ! ![/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 (edited) Oh yes the USA is evil we should turn ourselves over to the United Nations and have them redistribute the wealth. Dont you know those European Globalists will do a better job...of managing our money for us and helping the poor people of the world (sarcastic) Edited August 18, 2004 by Budge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 [quote]Oh so dUSt had it wrong, you mean American stomachs should be filled with food before others? oh wait, thats the samething dUSt said![/quote] No we should let our people starve and share all our food with everyone. Then we after handing all our money to the UN to redistribute the wealth to the impoverished nations, we should clean out all our grocery stores, and send the food overseas too, we can send them all our farmers while we are at it too. ...(sarcastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Im not against welfare by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP2Iloveyou Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 My dad and I were having a conversation similar to this today. I am a VERY strong conservative, economicly, socially, you name it. Many of these issues, people can legitimately disagree on because they are not intrinsicly evil. Anyway, I have no problem with giving people a hand up. It's giving people a hand out that I have a problem with. Furthermore, the United States does give more aid than anyone else in the world. As bad as the U.N. is right now, were it not for the U.S. and our involvment, the organization would be totally irrelevant. They are the biggest bunch of cowards I've ever seen. They criticize our involvment in Iraq, then question why we didn't do anything in Liberia. By the way, where was the U.N. last week as more Tutsis were slaughtered at the hands of the Hutu? I agree that materialism is wreaking havoc on morality in the United States, but I do not think that the answer to that problem is to resort to socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I am Catholic. If I list more than a Z degrees right I am not Catholic. If I list X degrees left I am not Catholic. Catholic teaching, the teaching of God, doesn't fall neatly into one party or an other. "There is no party of princpil (sp?) but men of princpil in all parties." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 19 2004, 10:30 AM'] No we should let our people starve and share all our food with everyone. Then we after handing all our money to the UN to redistribute the wealth to the impoverished nations, we should clean out all our grocery stores, and send the food overseas too, we can send them all our farmers while we are at it too. ...(sarcastic) [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Completely Pro-life (NO abortion, NO death penalty in America, NO contraception) Pro-Family (NO divorce, NO adultery, NO homosexual marriage, unions, or adoption) Anti-Planned Parenthood Anti-Sex Education Anti-National Media Pro-Tax Cuts to Favor Job Growth Anti-Minimum Wage Anti-Union Pro-Tax Credit for Corporations Funding Students Pro-School Vouchers Pro-Faith Based Initiative Anti-Drug Pro-War Against Terror Pro-Troop Realignment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:33 PM'] Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else. [/quote] I highly disagree... You know at the democratic convention Kerry was talking about america being "The beacon of light in the dark world" That's BS The church is the beacon of light in the dark world not some "put politics on pedastle" nation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 [quote]QUOTE (Budge @ Aug 16 2004, 06:33 PM) Im talking economically. I am not a socialist. American right now as richest nation gives the most aid to the impoverished world. Stripping our wealth away helps no one else. I highly disagree... You know at the democratic convention Kerry was talking about america being "The beacon of light in the dark world" That's BS The church is the beacon of light in the dark world not some "put politics on pedastle" nation.. [/quote] Well Kerry is Commie just like the United Nations. So we are supposed to let the Catholic church REDISTRIBUTE the wealth? Ah forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Blaze Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 [quote name='MC Just' date='Aug 19 2004, 09:11 AM'] I highly disagree... You know at the democratic convention Kerry was talking about america being "The beacon of light in the dark world" That's BS The church is the beacon of light in the dark world not some "put politics on pedastle" nation.. [/quote] in fairness homey, I'm sure President Bush has used the same symbolism in some of his speeches about the War of Terrorism, State of the Union etc..... Godbless ya bro ~S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Friday Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 [quote name='Sammy Blaze']I'm sure President Bush has used the same symbolism in some of his speeches about the War of Terrorism, State of the Union etc.....[/quote] In fact, Dubya even went so far as to say, [url="http://www.gopusa.com/bush/2002/radio_0831.shtml"]"our nation is the greatest force for good in history."[/url] Sounds a lot like "a beacon of light in a dark world" to me, but it must be okay since he's Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Well... I must say as a Canadian i find the American Health care system very troubling. Although Bush would not be my # 1 Candidate from the Republican party (I like Powell a lot more...altho he will never run) i will support him. Kerrys aka Flip Flop King's social stances on Abortion, Faith, liberalism (the list goes on) show me that he cannot lead the greatest superpower in the world. Also as a strong Catholic i feel that voting for him would be morally irresponsible and in my case perhaps even a mortal sin. I for example am anti-union however i think that there needs to still be some sort of FAIR social net for the unemployed because quite often these situations are out of the individuals control. Well i guess i am a strong Catholic -republican (notice the republican second...i let my faith deciede who i am voting for) if i was in a state where the democrat was pro life and the republican wasnt i would vote democrat. anyway my .02 cents. -Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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