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[quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Aug 26 2004, 02:15 PM'] dang it, Arlington is supposed to be orthodox. I mean it is compared to Richmond (though that's changing! God Bless Bishop DiLorenzo). Anyway, I need to come visit some of these parishes I keep hearing about that are apparently so much more orthodox than anything I've seen. [/quote]
Haha. Arlington, TX - not Virginia.

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Right. My Sunday masses too. But I am talking about like daily mass when there are about 50 ppl or smaller sunday masses.

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From the General Instruction:

163. When the distribution of Communion is finished, the priest himself immediately andcompletely consumes at the altar any consecrated wine that happens to remain; as for anyconsecrated hosts that are left, he either consumes them at the altar or carries them to the place designated for the reservation of the Eucharist.
Upon returning to the altar, the priest collects any fragments that may remain. Then, standing at the altar or at the credence table, he purifies the paten or ciborium over the chalice then purifies the chalice, saying quietly, Quod ore sumpsimus (Lord, may I receive), and dries the chalice with a purificator. If the vessels are purified at the altar, they are carried to the credence table by a
minister. Nevertheless, it is also permitted, especially if there are several vessels to be purified, to leave them suitably covered on a corporal, either at the altar or at the credence table, and to purify them immediately after Mass following the dismissal of the people.

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This comes from the Diocese of Pittsburg.

8. Cleansings
• The sacred vessels may be cleansed right after Communion or they may
be taken to the side table, placed on a corporal, and covered with a cloth.
They are then cleansed, normally at the side table, following the dismissal
of the people.
• If the priest cleanses the vessels during Mass, he does so at the side
of the altar or at the side table. (If cleansed at the altar, a minister
then takes the vessels to the side table.)
• If the deacon cleanses the vessels during Mass, he does so at the
side table (not at the altar).
• When need requires (and with the bishop’s permission),
extraordinary ministers of Communion may also assist with the
cleansing of vessels at the side table.
Notes:
• The ritual cleansing of vessels after Communion (whether during or
after Mass) requires that the paten be wiped over the chalice. (When
many fragments are present, it is helpful to add water, which is then
poured into the chalice.) Then water or wine and water together are
poured into the chalice and drunk by the one who cleanses it saying,
“Lord, may I receive…” The purificator is used to wipe the paten and to
dry the chalice.
• The cleansing is done by the priest or deacon or, when necessary, by
other ministers of Communion.
• After Mass, a more thorough a washing with hot water and soap and
careful drying is recommended. This may be done by the sacristan or
by others, always handling the vessels with respect. (It may be helpful
to remove any jewelry that may scratch the vessels while cleaning.)
• When particles of the Eucharistic bread adhere to the fingers, the
minister wipes the fingers over the paten. (When necessary, the
fingers are washed — over the chalice as part of the cleansing or in
another container the water of which is poured into the sacrarium.)
• Mishaps: If a particle of the Eucharistic bread should fall, it is picked
up reverently and consumed or allowed to dissolve completely in
water and then poured into the sacrarium. If any of the Precious
Blood spills, the area of the spill should be covered if necessary. As
soon as possible, the spot should be washed and the water poured
into the sacrarium.

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OK Father...... that seems to sum it up. So I will continue to wince and pray when I see this..... or prob will just not go back.

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CatholicCrusader

"I hate needing EMs. I very rarely will take Communion where there are EMs, because I invariably sit on the side the EM distributes to. My distaste boils down to 'I don't know where they've been.' I honestly can't tell whether this person is for abortion or what. Are they even in a state of grace to receive the Eucharist themselves?
More Deacons, I says! "

Just get in the Priest's line... that is what I used to do when I used to go to Novus Ordo... besides, I don't think an EM would know what to do if I came up and kneeled...

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toledo_jesus

well thank goodness that our Arlington is ok over here. :D

One time I did get in the priest's line, but I had to walk around the Church and I got in people's way. I was flustered and couldn't really concentrate.
I enjoy the Communion rail at St. Benedict's...very orderly, priest just moves on down the line.

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At the parish I used to attend, where I was a EM, we did this sometimes. We tried to avoid leaving the Precious Blood on the table, but sometimes there was too much to consume right there with the limited amount of people. Immeadieatly after Mass all of the EMs went over and consumed it. The problem for us was more personal limits (I'm only 5'2", so consuming 1/2 a glass of wine is not a good idea, esp when I'll be driving and I'm underage). And I know it's not 'wine' it's the Blood of Christ, but when my mouth got warm after drinking it...

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