Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 Ok...first of all, you all need to realize that the only time that I am on the internet is at work, and second of all, it very well may take a few days for me to reply. With that said, if you can allow yourself to be patient, and not get edgy or jump to conclusions, I will humor you and 'debate' whatever you'd like. BTW- Wasn't it an unspoken rule that only those involved in the debate of the thread (i.e. the person addressed to be debated) were supposed to be the only ones posting on it? Just curious. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Sep 24 2004, 07:48 AM'] Mrs. Werent you a Protestant before? Dont you think it could come over as hypocritical to others? [/quote] 1. Yes, I was a Protestant before, and technically could still be called one. My reconciliation to the Church has not been made yet, however, I am in the process of it. 2. No. How can something true be offensive? Protestants, many, many of them, come to conclusions without studying the topic of Catholicism, or just studying it from another Protestant's point of view. When does one become unignorant? When they face the truth for what it is, not what others claim it to be.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='mulls' date='Sep 24 2004, 10:05 AM'] just waiting for a response [/quote] Was not at work and could not reply because I had no immediate, reliable access to internet. Plus, I have an order that is due at the end of the day, which won't be done until tomorrow. FYI: After I finish responding to this thread, it is imperative for me to get off and finish the order for my customer.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='mulls' date='Sep 24 2004, 10:37 AM'] fine. Mrs. Bro Adam, please discuss your sig quote. everybody happy now? [/quote] Ignorant defined in the dictionary as: [quote] 1. Lacking education or knowledge. 2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake. 3. Unaware or uninformed. [/quote] Protestant as defined in the dictionary as: [quote] 1. A member of a Western Christian church whose faith and practice are founded on the principles of the Reformation, especially in the acceptance of the Bible as the sole source of revelation, in justification by faith alone, and in the universal priesthood of all the believers. 2. A member of a Western Christian church adhering to the theologies of Luther, Calvin, or Zwingli. 3. One of the German princes and cities that supported the doctrines of Luther and protested against the decision of the second Diet of Speyer (1529) to enforce the Edict of Worms (1521) and deny toleration to Lutherans. 4. protestant (also pr-tstnt) One who makes a declaration or avowal. [/quote] It should now be quite plain. Before you jump to conclusions let me ask you a few questions: 1. How many Protestants do I claim to be talking about in my sig? 2. At any time with my sig have I claimed to group all Protestants together? 3. Do I claim that I am talking about all Protestants in my sig? The answer to each question is clearly no. Are there ignorant Protestants? Yes, many, many, many. Are there ignorant Catholics? Yes, there are those who [b]claim[/b] to Catholic who are ignorant? What's up with my sig? Simply to show the frustration with those Protestants who are clearly ignorant of Catholic teaching, and claim that they worship and believe something contrary to what is taught.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='MartinLuther' date='Sep 24 2004, 11:03 AM'] I have two questions for Mrs Bro Adam: 1. If I was to make the same comment about Catholics on one of the phorums that you moderate here, would I be warned and censored? 2. When are you going to change your signature to conform with the phorum guidelines? [/quote] I shall ask a question in reply to your question. 1. Are you grouping all Catholics together into one group? 2. It is conforming with phorum guidelines. My signature is in no way an attack on any person, or group of people. If this statement were not true, then it would be an attack. If my husband were to come up to me and tell me that I was ignorant in the area of electricity or deep deep theology, would he be personally attacking me with words? No, in fact he is simply stating that I do not have the knowledge in these areas.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='mulls' date='Sep 24 2004, 01:40 PM'] i just want to talk [/quote] Anything else you'd like to discuss?
mulls Posted September 24, 2004 Author Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Sep 24 2004, 02:25 PM'] Was not at work and could not reply because I had no immediate, reliable access to internet. Plus, I have an order that is due at the end of the day, which won't be done until tomorrow. FYI: After I finish responding to this thread, it is imperative for me to get off and finish the order for my customer. [/quote] this was not directed at you, it was responding to jasjis' response because everyone seemed to be getting all uppity for no reason. i was merely stating that i was *patiently* waiting for a response and was not going to get involved with any senseless bantering, off the topic.
mulls Posted September 24, 2004 Author Posted September 24, 2004 screw it. people are way too defensive. i was just trying to start a decent dialogue. let the patting on the back continue.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='mulls' date='Sep 24 2004, 04:14 PM'] screw it. people are way too defensive. i was just trying to start a decent dialogue. let the patting on the back continue. [/quote] I'm up for some decent dialogue, although, like I said, it'll take a while for me to get back to you (I cross-stitch and take orders for cross-stitching), so I won't get back to you right away, but I'm up for it. If you would like jut you and I dialoguing in this thread, simply say so, and the moderators will see to it that no one but you and me post in this thread. Don't 'screw it' yet.
Brother Adam Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 Mulls, have you read the justification thread. I don't see much other than debate going on there.
MartinLuther Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Where I come from, calling someone or some group ignorant (especially if you dont specify what they are ignorant about) is a negative criticism - which is contrary to the board guidelines. I understand what you say about in this thread about "the frustration with those Protestants who are clearly ignorant of Catholic teaching, and claim that they worship and believe something contrary to what is taught" but that is not what your signature says. The way your signature is worded will be offensive to many protestants. I am not saying the same thing about Catholics. I was merely posing a hypothetical question in an attempt to get others to consider the inconsistent ways these phorums are moderated. I would have put this in a PM but I dont have PM privileges.
jasJis Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 [quote name='MartinLuther' date='Sep 25 2004, 07:53 AM'] Where I come from, calling someone or some group ignorant (especially if you dont specify what they are ignorant about) is a negative criticism - which is contrary to the board guidelines. I understand what you say about in this thread about "the frustration with those Protestants who are clearly ignorant of Catholic teaching, and claim that they worship and believe something contrary to what is taught" but that is not what your signature says. The way your signature is worded will be offensive to many protestants. I am not saying the same thing about Catholics. I was merely posing a hypothetical question in an attempt to get others to consider the inconsistent ways these phorums are moderated. [/quote] Let me jump back in here since I already stuck my nose in. mulls, I hope I did not seem like I was being defensive to your posts. I thought it was a good question. I like MBA's sig. It's thought provoking and it should generate questions. MartinLuther, My original post was directed to you. You are assuming the worst case scenario. You are working to find the most negative aspect of the sig, and the most negative aspect of this phorum. I'm not sure if you realize this, but we are humans and lack perfection. Just about anything we do will have some negative effects and can be construed or taken as being negative. You are human too and are imperfect too. Maybe it's you being negative, not the sig or this Board. I was presenting and defending the positive aspects of this Board and what I know of Mrs Bro Adam and her sig. If you are just asking questions without any intent to possibly accept the answer, then you are simplying asking questions to provoke hated and create an opportunity for you to attack and destroy with your pre-conceived conclusions. Maybe you should consider the non-hypothetical question of the inconsistent way you are open or close-minded and percieve something as good or bad.
Theoketos Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Mulls, Please forgive Mrs. Bro Adam, I am sure that she did not mean you any harm. I am really sorry that you do not know or reject the whole truth. And I know that you have a huge problem with people saying that. But honestly I think that you would say that about every one who does not see the world as you do. Ave Maria, James III
Kilroy the Ninja Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 I believe Mrs. BA has answered the original question asked here. dUSt doesn't seem to have a problem with her signature. I assure you he would let her know if he did. If you have a problem with it and don't have PM priviledges, then email dUSt. The debate board is not the appropriate place for such discourse. If you don't like the way the board is moderated, email dUSt and make some suggestions. We're all trying to do the best we can. We can't please everyone all of the time. Thank you. God Bless and have a nice day. This thread is closed.
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