the_rev Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 Hey everyone, I was wondering if you were for or against the death penalty. I am against it for the most part, because of the dignity of Human Life, and what if someone is executed unjustly, later finding out they did not commit the crime, you can't give that person back their life. But, if you were to murder 18 people or a large amount, you confessed, or there is DNA evidence, then I feel they should get the death penalty. What is your stance?
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 I'm with the Church on this. It's not intrinsically wrong, but in our modern society, the chance that we really need to resort to it is just too slim. Besides, in court costs for necessary appeals, etc., it actually costs more to execute than it does to keep them alive!
the_rev Posted October 15, 2004 Author Posted October 15, 2004 Yes that's what I found out today. We researched it today in Ch. English 10. I iddn't research though, I read news articles on the net. I read one especially about Kerry's response to his comments during the debate about the Cheyney family.
drewmeister2 Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 I am against it. The Church says the only time it can be used is when there is no other way to keep the murderer from harming society, and, of course, we can always lock him away for life, so the death penalty really isnt an option.
popestpiusx Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 I am 100% in favor of the death penalty for all crimes, including, but not limited to, speeding tickets and jaywalking.
drewmeister2 Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Oct 15 2004, 04:46 PM'] I am 100% in favor of the death penalty for all crimes, including, but not limited to, speeding tickets and jaywalking. [/quote] Wow, I hope you are just kidding!
shelly_freak Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 I'm against the death penalty in all forms! Even if someone has killed millions of people it is not our duty to kill him, harsh punishment yes, but death no. Death should be something left to God and not something we take into our own hands.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 The Church is not against the death penalty and neither am I. You take a life, you forfeit your own.
FutureSoror Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 I agree with Raphael. For my part, if I had to choose yes or no I'd have to say yes, because I don't think it's intrinically wrong. I think that it should be kept to what's necessary, though. In this country we have enough super-high security prisons to take care of those people.
StColette Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 I'm in agreement with Micah as well, I may not like the death penalty myself but I'll willingly submit myself to the Church and it's teachings
Phazzan Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 I am for the death penalty. I agree there are some serious ethical and moral dilemmas associated with it, but I am also a strong believer in justice.
ironmonk Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 15 2004, 07:15 PM'] I'm with the Church on this. It's not intrinsically wrong, but in our modern society, the chance that we really need to resort to it is just too slim. Besides, in court costs for necessary appeals, etc., it actually costs more to execute than it does to keep them alive! [/quote] Ditto. I'm with the Church on everything. God Bless, ironmonk
Pete-ster Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='drewmeister2' date='Oct 15 2004, 05:46 PM'] I am against it. The Church says the only time it can be used is when there is no other way to keep the murderer from harming society, and, of course, we can always lock him away for life, so the death penalty really isnt an option. [/quote] Murderers tend to continue to murder while in prison. I'm not for the DP in all cases, in fact, I'd be against it in 95% of the cases. If someone continues to murder after already being punished for murder, then I think that the Death Penalty can be morally applied.
Sinner Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 Very unusual for it to be necessary in the US. I usta be all for it, now Im not.
popestpiusx Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 15 2004, 07:42 PM'] The Church is not against the death penalty and neither am I. You take a life, you forfeit your own. [/quote] Mark it the phatmass history books: cmom and I are 100% in agreement!
Noel's angel Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) death penalty is only just if it is for the common good Edited October 16, 2004 by Noel's angel
Noel's angel Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) "Whoever strikes a man a mortal blow must be put to death. He, however, who did not hunt a man down, but caused his death by an act of God, may flee to a place which I will set apart for this purpose. But when a man kills another after maliciously scheming to do so, you must take him even from my altar and put him to death. [Exodus 21:12-14] Many confuse the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill," by separating it from the rest of Scripture that gives it its proper understanding. Edited October 16, 2004 by Noel's angel
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='Noel's angel' date='Oct 16 2004, 08:29 AM'] death penalty is only just if it is for the common good [/quote] When a prisioner who is murdered keeps murdering in prison he deserves the death penalty. The Church is not aganist the death penalty. Cardinal George said nothing so concetrates your mind as a sentence of death [paraphrased].
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='FutureSoror' date='Oct 16 2004, 12:07 AM'] I agree with Raphael. For my part, if I had to choose yes or no I'd have to say yes, because I don't think it's intrinically wrong. I think that it should be kept to what's necessary, though. In this country we have enough super-high security prisons to take care of those people. [/quote] If you ask a prison guard, he will tell you high security prisons are quite dangerous places.
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