Lambeth Report on ordaining gay bishops

[reelguy227]

[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Oct 20 2004, 05:19 PM'] Where is non-aborifacient contraception forbidden in Holy Scripture? I defy you to show me! Sola Scriptura! [/quote]
Where in the bible does it support the Sola Scriptura theory ? Give me the passage please . And how do you explain Eucharistic miracles ?

God Bless,
Ricky.

Edited October 21, 2004 by reelguy227

[DojoGrant]

[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Oct 20 2004, 05:41 PM'] I see. So the Pope could suddenly sit down in Peter's chair one day and say "My loyal subjects can only have sex wearing purple thongs at 7:34 PM on a wednesday of the 8th month, except when the moon is full" and that would be a part of 'sacred tradition'?

I don't see how the Pope, councils, etc, can just pull stuff out of their hats which flatly contradicts, or at best, is not present in, God's inspired Word, and call it 'holy tradition' [/quote]
What a red herring! Demonstrate ONE SINGLE Catholic moral position that is not traced back to ancient times. Show one moral position that came about "on a whim" by the Pope, which has no logic or moral foundation.

Do it. You just gave a glaring "example" of what you believe the "Church of Rome" to be like, so back up your statement.

[DojoGrant]

[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Oct 20 2004, 05:43 PM'] Jesus seemed to think that the Holy Scriptures were sufficent to judge all our doctrines by. (Cf. Mark 7) [/quote]
I see Jesus quoting Isaiah and speaking of "God's Word," but nowhere do I see anything about the "sufficiency" of "th Scriptures" to "judge all doctrines" in Mark 7.

[reelguy227]

Yu tell em dojo ,yu tell em !!!!!

[ICTHUS]

[quote name='reelguy227' date='Oct 20 2004, 09:38 PM'] Where in the bible does it support the Sola Scriptura theory ? Give me the passage please .
[/quote]
Mark 7, 1 Tim 3:16-17 has sufficency of the Scriptures written all over it, and Acts 17:11 all seem to indicate that the Scriptures are the judge whereby we are to determine the veracity of all doctrines presented to us.

[quote] And how do you explain Eucharistic miracles ? [/quote] Well, without having been omniscient and seen everything that happened, I'd say Rome either made the stories up or replaced the bread and wine with bits of flesh and blood from any old person.

This is not to say that I deny real presence - I deny [i]transubstantiation because of the logical issues inherent in it. [/i]

[ICTHUS]

[quote name='DojoGrant' date='Oct 21 2004, 04:03 PM'] I see Jesus quoting Isaiah and speaking of "God's Word," but nowhere do I see anything about the "sufficiency" of "th Scriptures" to "judge all doctrines" in Mark 7. [/quote]
ARE YOU JOKING!???? He rebukes the Pharisees for replacing the Word of God with their own traditions, just as Rome does with her doctrines about Mary, etc. Reading between the lines, I can easily see how, in combination with Acts 17:11 and 2 Tim 3:16-17 could indicate sufficency of the Scriptures.

Edited October 22, 2004 by ICTHUS

[ICTHUS]

[quote name='reelguy227' date='Oct 21 2004, 10:30 PM']Yu tell em dojo ,yu tell em !!!!![/quote]
Oh please. Must you be so immature? This isn't a football game, you fool.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Oct 22 2004, 02:36 PM'] ARE YOU JOKING!???? He rebukes the Pharisees for replacing the Word of God with their own traditions, just as Rome does with her doctrines about Mary, etc. Reading between the lines, I can easily see how, in combination with Acts 17:11 and 2 Tim 3:16-17 could indicate sufficency of the Scriptures. [/quote]
So your interpretations and reading between the lines gives you this? And thats how dogma is made? Whta about the constant interpation of the Church who chose the book you are extrapolating from?

Its the CHURCH that guarantees the book!!!