goldenchild17 Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 How much does a person have to know nowadays, to become a priest or even before one enters seminary?
friarMatt Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 depends on the program of formation, which diocese u enter, what seminary they send you to, or even what order. I haven't taken latin and I am not sure if I will have to.
goldenchild17 Posted October 30, 2004 Author Posted October 30, 2004 Okay so you haven't even taken Latin at all? I just have a hard time learning different languages, I tried Latin for a few years and I'm working on Spanish, but have never made any progress in either area. I just don't want this to prohibit my vocation at all. I don't plan on doing all Latin Masses. But I just didn't know how much one normally needs to know.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 For the diocese I studied for, you didn't need to know Latin, and that was one of the more conservative dioceses.
homeschoolmom Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 30 2004, 08:10 PM'] For the diocese I studied for, you didn't need to know Latin, and that was one of the more conservative dioceses. [/quote]
goldenchild17 Posted October 31, 2004 Author Posted October 31, 2004 Okay thanks ya'll. I would love to learn Latin and be able to do the Latin Mass, but I don't want to be required to know it(otherwise I'd be in a bit of trouble )
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 [quote name='goldenchild17' date='Oct 30 2004, 09:45 PM'] Okay thanks ya'll. I would love to learn Latin and be able to do the Latin Mass, but I don't want to be required to know it(otherwise I'd be in a bit of trouble ) [/quote] I can always tutor ya.
homeschoolmom Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 Please tell me that priests at least know the prayers of the mass in Latin? ... at least some of 'em?? I hate to think that my third grader will know more Latin than our priest...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Oct 30 2004, 10:00 PM'] Please tell me that priests at least know the prayers of the mass in Latin? ... at least some of 'em?? I hate to think that my third grader will know more Latin than our priest... [/quote] As far as I know, no.
goldenchild17 Posted October 31, 2004 Author Posted October 31, 2004 Some of the Masses I've seen, like with priests who normally do the Mass in English, if they do a Latin Mass most of the time it looks like they're reading from a book or something.
goldenchild17 Posted October 31, 2004 Author Posted October 31, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 30 2004, 08:59 PM'] I can always tutor ya. [/quote] Of course I would love to take ya up on the offer I really do want to learn the language but it just isn't coming to me...
homeschoolmom Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 30 2004, 09:06 PM'] As far as I know, no. [/quote] While I know that this is true, I think it's a horrible, horrible shame. C'mon, Latin's not that difficult... and I'm not suggesting that priests be conversant in it, but please, why can't they learn the tradiational prayers? It hardly takes any time at all. My eight year old learned the Sanctus by learning a line a week. She and I can sing it and recite it. By the end of the school year, we will also know the Pater Noster and a bunch of other prayers. If the priests won't even learn them, they will eventually be lost.
Pio Nono Posted October 31, 2004 Posted October 31, 2004 JMJ 10/31 - Thirty-first Sunday The Church, at least in the USA, is starting to move to a requirement of three semesters of Latin and Greek. The Pontifical North American College in Rome requires at least that much, and many dioceses in America require Latin. I've put in my time with Latin, so I'm turning to modern languages now - I'm studying Italian in Rome and hope to fluently speak Spanish by ordination time. I also need to put in my time with Greek, but that will come at major seminary.
Theologian in Training Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Oct 30 2004, 11:00 PM'] Please tell me that priests at least know the prayers of the mass in Latin? ... at least some of 'em?? I hate to think that my third grader will know more Latin than our priest... [/quote] Does the Tantum Ergo, O Salutaris, and Salve Regina count? That is about the extent of the Latin I have gotten and I am in my Third year of Theology. I have learned a few Greek words, usually in biblical classes as well as some Hebrew, but very little Latin. Pray for our seminaries and our seminarians, we are more impoverished than you may think. God Bless
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 [quote name='Theologian in Training' date='Oct 31 2004, 10:27 PM'] Pray for our seminaries and our seminarians, we are more impoverished than you may think. [/quote] Amen. I put out the offer now. I will help any seminarian on this site or others with their Latin if they contact me.
Guest Aluigi Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 the Latin of the mass should be a requirement for a Latin Rite priest, as far as I'm concerned all the Latin I know is the Paternoster, The Ave Maria, and the Gloria Patri, but I will eventually learn more
ThyWillBeDone Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 I am currently studying at Saint Charles Seminary in Philadelphia. Here every college division seminarian is required to take 4 semester of Latin and 3 semesters of Greek. I am working on my first semester of Latin right now. In addition you will probably pick up some Latin along the way just from the mass parts, hymns and prayers and other stuff. This is my first year and when I entered 2 months ago I knew no Latin, and not counting what I have learned from Latin class, I have learned several hymns and prayers (Ave Maria, Salve Regina, Pater Noster), and just about all the mass parts (Santus, Agnus Dei, Gloria etc.). So I wouldn't worry about knowing any before you enter. And I wouldn't worry to much about the Latin classes either God will help you get throught the acedemics required in the Seminary God Bless, Chris
Theologian in Training Posted November 1, 2004 Posted November 1, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 31 2004, 11:38 PM'] Amen. I put out the offer now. I will help any seminarian on this site or others with their Latin if they contact me. [/quote] Thanks for the offer but, unfortunately, my time is quite limited. Third Year theologians have a lot to do to get prepared for ordination Perhaps one day I will have the time to put into learning a bit of Latin. Thanks again God Bless
goldenchild17 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Posted November 2, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 31 2004, 09:38 PM'] Amen. I put out the offer now. I will help any seminarian on this site or others with their Latin if they contact me. [/quote] Dude, man if you could somehow knock it into me I'd be forever grateful. I'm not a seminarian(yet). I'm still trying to decide on an order or diocese or something, I don't know. But I so want to learn Latin, as well as Greek and Hebrew. But Latin first.
popestpiusx Posted November 2, 2004 Posted November 2, 2004 No man should be ordained to the priesthood of Jesus Christ unless he can speak (or at least read) the language of the Church.
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