Socrates Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 (edited) This thread is becoming Monty Python absurd. Everybody here agrees that using guns in self-defense is okay, but that murder (what Theotokos meant by "killing") is wrong. Killing a human being should never be taken lightly. Moral and ontological evil are different things. Crusader, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and it's getting annoying [color=red][edited by IcePrincess].[/color] Edited November 10, 2004 by IcePrincessKRS
popestpiusx Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 I really love guns. Big guns. Small guns. All guns. I just love guns.
Socrates Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 "Gun love, gun love. She's a real gun lover tonight!" ~ ZZTop, "Gun love"
CatholicCrusader Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 [quote name='Socrates' date='Nov 9 2004, 12:52 AM'] This thread is becoming Monty Python absurd. Everybody here agrees that using guns in self-defense is okay, but that murder (what Theotokos meant by "killing") is wrong. Killing a human being should never be taken lightly. Moral and ontological evil are different things. Crusader, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and it's getting annoying as ****. (edited for vulgar language) [/quote] Why is it that I am the one arguing and Theoketos is not? Seems like a bias...
popestpiusx Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 [img]http://people.zeelandnet.nl/maiden/Allsig.jpg[/img]
CatholicCrusader Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 PSPX, I responded to SALVATION ONCE AND FOR ALL, etc. right after your bumped it--so if you would like to respond to it, do so.
popestpiusx Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 [img]http://www.libertyarms.net/images/btpmodel2aftertext.jpg[/img]
popestpiusx Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 (edited) [quote name='CatholicCrusader' date='Nov 10 2004, 02:03 PM'] PSPX, I responded to SALVATION ONCE AND FOR ALL, etc. right after your bumped it--so if you would like to respond to it, do so. [/quote] I will, but for now I am posting more important things. [img]http://www.gotammo.com/rentals/SW65.jpg[/img] Edited November 10, 2004 by popestpiusx
Socrates Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 PopepiusX, Do you live in Front Royal? (They wouldn't let me send you a personal message.) Do I know you by any chance? (nice gun collection!) God bless, Greg R.
ironmonk Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 My S&W SW9SV and Glock 19.... [img]http://www.geocities.com/iron_tech/Picture11.jpg[/img] I want to get a Bushmaster .223... and a good 50 cal.... like theirs: [url="http://www.serbu.com/"]http://www.serbu.com/[/url] Want to get into competition shooting... but it's so $$$$ God Bless, ironmonk
foundsheep Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 This is a serious issue that should not be made light of.
foundsheep Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 But seriously folks Im a 380 kind of guy!
Guest Aluigi Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 hey, you guys better stop makin fun of this topic [img]http://www.msgr.ca/msgr-5/nuns.jpg[/img] or the nuns will come after ya! <i can't believe no one thought of posting this pic yet!>
Socrates Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 Nuns with guns! That rocks! (Where are you PopepiusX?)
popestpiusx Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 [quote name='Aluigi' date='Nov 10 2004, 11:26 PM'] hey, you guys better stop makin fun of this topic [img]http://www.msgr.ca/msgr-5/nuns.jpg[/img] or the nuns will come after ya! <i can't believe no one thought of posting this pic yet!> [/quote] How can I compete with that... [img]http://www.stmarysridge.org/feed/thmb_300/image7.jpg[/img]Ah, I've got it Beat that!!
CatholicforChrist Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I cannot post the source for this because I am unable to find it (but I will if I do find it somewhere else), but Catholic countries forbid the people to have deadly weapons, guns included, at least pre-Renaissance and maybe during the Renaissance. Once there was a threat and a need for the people to defend themselves, guns were allowed for that reason, but we should not go overboard with a sort of love for guns. It seems kind of Americanistic (not the heresy, but just in general), and we know how anti-Catholic America is. There was no love of guns in Christendom; I cannot see a reason to "love" guns. One can love hunting because it has a purpose, but to have a love of guns seems pointless at best. With all that said, in this society it is often necessary to have a gun for protection at least, so there is definitely nothing wrong with it, and gun control is unable to stop crime. All it does is take guns from the innocent people; something like 80% of crimes are committed with illegal guns. N.B., if anyone wants to call me a liberal because of this post, please see my other posts.
popestpiusx Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I must admit that I love guns. CforC, you are a raging pinko!
CatholicforChrist Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 LOL! Just as an aside, our French priest (FSSP) calls people Bolshevik (jokingly), especially when driving.
ironmonk Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) [quote name='CatholicforChrist' date='Nov 11 2004, 11:35 AM'] I cannot see a reason to "love" guns. [/quote] Have you ever went shooting at targets? Can one love skateboarding, skiing, a game, computers, football, baseball, phatmass, etc...? Then one can have a reason to love guns. God Bless, ironmonk Edited November 11, 2004 by ironmonk
Socrates Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) [quote name='CatholicforChrist' date='Nov 11 2004, 09:35 AM'] I cannot post the source for this because I am unable to find it (but I will if I do find it somewhere else), but Catholic countries forbid the people to have deadly weapons, guns included, at least pre-Renaissance and maybe during the Renaissance. Once there was a threat and a need for the people to defend themselves, guns were allowed for that reason, but we should not go overboard with a sort of love for guns. It seems kind of Americanistic (not the heresy, but just in general), and we know how anti-Catholic America is. There was no love of guns in Christendom; I cannot see a reason to "love" guns. One can love hunting because it has a purpose, but to have a love of guns seems pointless at best. With all that said, in this society it is often necessary to have a gun for protection at least, so there is definitely nothing wrong with it, and gun control is unable to stop crime. All it does is take guns from the innocent people; something like 80% of crimes are committed with illegal guns. N.B., if anyone wants to call me a liberal because of this post, please see my other posts. [/quote] "Liberal" doesn't begin to do you justice, buddy! America, God, guns, & guts, baby! (& Mom & Apple Pie, too!) (ps. - Everybody had swords, bows & arrows, etc. in the Middle Ages (early small firearms were pretty ineffectual)- only tyrants fear an armed populace!) Happy Veterans Day and God bless, Socrates (who carries no guns, but keeps a two-handed sword handy) Edited November 11, 2004 by Socrates
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