Will you be eternally saved?

[XIX]

[quote name='Balthazor' date='Nov 18 2004, 12:50 AM'] Also who here called you a "heretic"? [/quote]
I think he is simply pointing out that that is the general perception that Orthodox Catholics seem to have of anybody who is not Orthodox.

[Balthazor]

sorry ....my feathers got ruffled. I didn't mean to fly off the handle like that....

[ICTHUS]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Nov 17 2004, 11:24 AM'] To approach a Catholic message board stating "Will you be eternally saved" as a Reformed Protestant, leaves me the impression this person isn't interested in learning about the Catholic faith and just wants to spread his own beliefs of such non-biblical concepts as "the sinners prayer" "alter-calls" and "accepting Jesus as your personal savior to be once and forever saved" [/quote]
Actually, Bro, from the looks of it this person doesn't really look Reformed. He believes in Eternal Security, yes, but it is illogical to believe in eternal security apart from the Reformed doctrines of grace. Also, the Reformed do not teach that perseverance is unnecessary. Let me quote the Westminster Confession at length.

Chapter XVII
[quote]Of the Perseverance of the Saints
I. They, whom God has accepted in His Beloved, effectually called, and sanctified by His Spirit, can neither totally nor finally fall away from the state of grace, but shall certainly persevere therein to the end, and be eternally saved.[1]

II. This perseverance of the saints depends not upon their own free will, but upon the immutability of the decree of election, flowing from the free and unchangeable love of God the Father;[2] upon the efficacy of the merit and intercession of Jesus Christ,[3] the abiding of the Spirit, and of the seed of God within them,[4] and the nature of the covenant of grace:[5] from all which arises also the certainty and infallibility thereof.[6]

III. Nevertheless, they may, through the temptations of Satan and of the world, the prevalency of corruption remaining in them, and the neglect of the means of their preservation, fall into grievous sins;[7] and, for a time, continue therein:[8] whereby they incur God's displeasure,[9] and grieve His Holy Spirit,[10] come to be deprived of some measure of their graces and comforts,[11] have their hearts hardened,[12] and their consciences wounded;[13] hurt and scandalize others,[14] and bring temporal judgments upon themselves.[15][/quote]

Far from ignoring the necessity of perseverance, the Reformed affirm the need to 'make firm your calling and election'

[ICTHUS]

Who voted "No" to this poll, I'd love to know...

[Guest Aluigi]

perhaps someone despairing of God's mercy

perhaps someone answering on a purely intellectual level

[Balthazor]

I voted Maybe....

[popestpiusx]

I'm going to get saved again this Saturday afternoon at about 3:30 (or shortly thereafter, depending on how long the confession line is).

[burnsspivey]

I voted maybe, but not for the same reason as the rest of you, I'd bet. *L*

According to the Baptists I'm "saved". According to me it's a rather pointless question.

[cmotherofpirl]

How could a Baptist possibly think you are saved?

[burnsspivey]

Because I was saved...in the Baptist church...thus I am saved forever! Muahahaha!

[Socrates]

[edit: mispost]

Edited November 24, 2004 by Socrates

[daugher-of-Mary]

As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13).

[Balthazor]

Actually whenever someone asks me if I am saved I tell them I am a work in progress.....

Of course I only use this line whenever I have a lot of time to try and explain it.

[Balthazor]

[quote name='burnsspivey' date='Nov 24 2004, 12:53 PM'] Because I was saved...in the Baptist church...thus I am saved forever! Muahahaha! [/quote]
ya know sometimes you make me angry...but sometimes you are really funny!! iespecially like the evil laugh at the end.....

Edited November 25, 2004 by Balthazor