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Really Jez ... there really isn't any debate about whether PM is good for teens or not....that has been pretty much made clear ...everyone seems to be in favor of that ... its the other issue that is raging ...


So if we get back to the point...PM is a great place for teens.

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[quote name='Azriel' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:26 PM'] As long as there are free tacos, so very tasty and good for you,, PM is okey dokey by me.

oh...and cake. [/quote]
tacos, so very tasty and good for you,. ew. :angry:

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ok im gone for real this time.. I'll be praying for you Spath...

Posted

the original issue died.

This is definitely sad. Phatmass was a great place, if people see this i don't think it will help any. It wouldn't matter if the church had a definitive teaching, the people need to overcome their own emotions and will and just lay everything at the base of the cross.

that hasn't happened i hope it will.

Thy Geekdom Come
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:wacko: How did this turn into a debate that doesn't even relate to the topic?

I think we need a split and lock...
Posted

[quote name='Raphael' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:31 PM'] :wacko: How did this turn into a debate that doesn't even relate to the topic?

I think we need a split and lock... [/quote]
yup. -_-

cmotherofpirl
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The topic is whether Phatmass is good for teens or not.
Stick to the topic or the thread goes bye byes.

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:38 PM'] The topic is whether Phatmass is good for teens or not.
Stick to the topic or the thread goes bye byes. [/quote]
Amen! ^_^

Guest Clementina
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[quote name='spathariossa' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:28 PM'] You say this and then you say things like what Socrates said implying that you have the authority. How could I not lose my patience when I have to go in circles with you people on the most basic of issues? This is intolerable.

I'm sick of getting the "you shove it in our faces" line of carp from people who bring it up themselves. I'm more than sick of being called a homosexual or people telling me I have SSA. But no matter how often I explain it they turn around and pretend I never did. Like when I say I was born trans. People freak out and tell me that my daddy didn't love me enough or that it was some nonsensical environmental cause. I'm the person with the disorder, I think I'd know best. But somehow, having the disorder renders my opinion useless.

How can you expect me to have any patience left? [/quote]
Hi I'm new to this and felt then need to respond to you on behalf of my Husband McJust. I've read your post and the movie Too Wong Fu comes to mind when Wesley Snipes character mentions "Your approval is not required nor desired but we will take you acceptance." I have made this my motto. And you know what spathariossa if you want to stick your little pinky up in the air and say that what you do is not a sin, Hey go for it. But when you start calling my husband an inbacile your not only insulting him you insulting me for I would not have married this man you have discribed. One might question your bitterness and anger to your additude and you yourself. Whether you are transwhatever learn to love yourself. Whether you believe that your not shoving thing's in our faces people like you do. I work in the Beauty industry I've personally met dUSt on many occasions when him and McJust get together for projects and events. He's a nice guy and knows that it might not be lady like for me to defend my husband but best believe I'm gonna bring it. As for the question at hand all I know is what McJust tells me and now by reading some post and I'm on the fence with an answer for this question. It can be dangerous and not at times. I work in the Beauty Industry I work at a Spa and Salon I work with 2 gay men and have had my share of shoving their beliefs down my throat. By then saying that the Catholic Church is not for me that it's for single and married couples meaning that He had no place in the Catholic Church. To me there in no such thing as "born that way" that's bunk. God makes no mistakes and by saying being born that way is a slap in the face for God and for shame. Transgender is just another excuse for wanting to do what YOU want and not doing the RIGHT thing which is to fight those urges with prayer and restraint. This is not a threat but a promise call my Husband anymore names and I will personally speak to dUSt.
Cheers,

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[quote name='Clementina' date='Feb 7 2005, 09:16 PM'] Hi I'm new to this and felt then need to respond to you on behalf of my Husband McJust. I've read your post and the movie Too Wong Fu comes to mind when Wesley Snipes character mentions "Your approval is not required nor desired but we will take you acceptance." I have made this my motto. And you know what spathariossa if you want to stick your little pinky up in the air and say that what you do is not a sin, Hey go for it. But when you start calling my husband an inbacile your not only insulting him you insulting me for I would not have married this man you have discribed. One might question your bitterness and anger to your additude and you yourself. Whether you are transwhatever learn to love yourself. Whether you believe that your not shoving thing's in our faces people like you do. I work in the Beauty industry I've personally met dUSt on many occasions when him and McJust get together for projects and events. He's a nice guy and knows that it might not be lady like for me to defend my husband but best believe I'm gonna bring it. As for the question at hand all I know is what McJust tells me and now by reading some post and I'm on the fence with an answer for this question. It can be dangerous and not at times. I work in the Beauty Industry I work at a Spa and Salon I work with 2 gay men and have had my share of shoving their beliefs down my throat. By then saying that the Catholic Church is not for me that it's for single and married couples meaning that He had no place in the Catholic Church. To me there in no such thing as "born that way" that's bunk. God makes no mistakes and by saying being born that way is a slap in the face for God and for shame. Transgender is just another excuse for wanting to do what YOU want and not doing the RIGHT thing which is to fight those urges with prayer and restraint. This is not a threat but a promise call my Husband anymore names and I will personally speak to dUSt.
Cheers, [/quote]
Look, this is me being charitable.


I'm sorry if I offended you or your husband, I was just a little irritated.

Posted (edited)
:mellow:






^_^ Edited by toledo_jesus
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phatmass is not dangerous to teens. :mellow:

Guest Clementina
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[quote name='spathariossa' date='Feb 7 2005, 09:18 PM'] Look, this is me being charitable.


I'm sorry if I offended you or your husband, I was just a little irritated. [/quote]
Your forgiven. See that was easy! It's not fun being mad all the time. I get irritated also but I think of the love McJust has for me and that he thinks (even when I don't) I'm the greatest and I feel good again. I'm not in this world to make friends. But love has to come in the picture sometimes and that what you should feel about yourself. I always said to McJust that I was alone not lonely because I was comfortable with my own thought. Just a suggestion.

Posted

I'm sorry and Your Forgiven. Phatmass Rocks and it's great for Teens. Some times some people just get a little out of hand, including me I have a 10% warning. I've had it for the longest.. Maybe this thread should be closed along with the "i'm done" one..Lets just leave this alone.

Posted

phatmass is good for teens. :thumb:

Posted (edited)

[quote name='dUSt' date='Feb 7 2005, 05:07 PM'] It's been brought up that phatmass isn't the safest place for teens because of some of the topics that get discussed here.

[b]Question to teens:[/b] Has phatmass made you stronger in your faith? Has phatmass made you doubt your faith?

Thoughts? [/quote]
It was very helpful in making me stronger in my faith, without Phatmass, I don't know where I would be.


[b]Note:[/b] Phatmass strongly helped me convert/revert back to the Catholic faith.

Edited by Paladin D
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[quote name='dUSt' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:06 PM'] You act as if phatmass is the public school system. This website teaches me better than my parents ever did. [/quote]
That's not what I was implying and you know it. The fact of the matter is this: you allow minors to have accounts. You claim the site is fine for any age group. Whether or not the content is orthodox is irrelevant. It is a subject matter better dealt with by parents. In fact, the Church stongly upholds that it is the right and duty of parents to teach their kids about these matters when they decide their kids are ready for it. I'm not saying don't allow these discussions. I'm just saying that I don't think they should be in the public sphere due to their sensitive nature. How difficult would it be to set up a room like the NFP room for discussions of a more sensitive nature? (I'm honestly asking here). It's your site though. Do what you want.

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For me, both weaker and stonger. The parts that have weakened elements of my faith have been less people talking about Church dotrine, but what seems to come up with a few members at times. It seems a few times that people are willing to "gloss" over elements of the faith that don't meet their adgena. This is true of the American part of the Church, as one of the cardinals said, "We are Catholic in faith, prodenstant in culture." Some members just hop over and, in a sense, sweep it under the rug when they don't agree with it.

Other parts that have weakened my faith have been times when I have just looked around, towards no one person especial, and said "Small minds." There, at times, is a lot of ignorance of things flowing down threads, which, myself being a self decleared and peer titled intellectual am upset by. This, however, tends to go in cycles.

The parts that have strengthened my faith have been less just making it more firm, but rather added to it, expanded my KB so that I was better educated about some doctrines, etc.

Just my 0.016 Euro.

Posted

I think Phat Mass is great!!

On the subject matter, I'm really kind of torn.

I kind of agree with PSPX, and I kind of agree with Dust. Hmm... Split Personality Disorder?


peace...

Posted

[quote name='Iacobus' date='Feb 7 2005, 10:56 PM'] For me, both weaker and stonger. The parts that have weakened elements of my faith have been less people talking about Church dotrine, but what seems to come up with a few members at times. It seems a few times that people are willing to "gloss" over elements of the faith that don't meet their adgena. This is true of the American part of the Church, as one of the cardinals said, "We are Catholic in faith, prodenstant in culture." Some members just hop over and, in a sense, sweep it under the rug when they don't agree with it.

Other parts that have weakened my faith have been times when I have just looked around, towards no one person especial, and said "Small minds." There, at times, is a lot of ignorance of things flowing down threads, which, myself being a self decleared and peer titled intellectual am upset by. This, however, tends to go in cycles.

The parts that have strengthened my faith have been less just making it more firm, but rather added to it, expanded my KB so that I was better educated about some doctrines, etc.

Just my 0.016 Euro. [/quote]
Would you include proper spelling and grammer usage within that which makes one a [quote]self decleared and peer titled intellectual [/quote].

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