Francis Arinze

[Sinner]

Pro: One of my KC Brothers is his 2nd Cousin!!!!!!!!! Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='the_rev' date='Apr 8 2005, 07:24 PM'] At the Vicariate meeting our priests felt he was not a good choice for Pope. [/quote]
What were the reasons?

[argent_paladin]

[quote name='the_rev' date='Apr 8 2005, 07:24 PM'] At the Vicariate meeting our priests felt he was not a good choice for Pope. [/quote]
You mentioned that before, but then conceded that the priests are liberal. If that is true, and they want to see the Church change its positions concerning sexual morality, then of course they wouldn't like him. That makes me like him all the more. I certainly wouldn't select a candidate based on how Americans like him.

[dUSt]

Remember that Arinze put out [url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/curia/cdwrdsac.htm"]REDEMPTIONIS SACRAMENTUM[/url] and was the man who forced Lifeteen to stop the liturgical abuses.

[Scofizzle]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Apr 8 2005, 06:57 PM'] I can already see a movie about the story of Arinze's life as played by Morgan Freeman. [/quote]
samuel L Jackson

[theculturewarrior]

Pro: He's old. May get elected by Cardinals hoping for a shorter reign this time.

Con: He's old.

[argent_paladin]

Old? Not by Cardinal standards. The average age of Cardinals is 76. The average age of Cardinal electors is 71.5. 50 cardinals are younger than Arinze and 133 are the same age or older. He is younger than more than half of the Cardinal electors. He is probably the perfect age, actually.

BTW, this is an interesting take on the conclave. Very informative.
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_election,_2005"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_election,_2005[/url]

[jrndveritatis]

Want to see how awesome Arinze is?

Go here:

[url="http://www.familyland.org/content/Content.aspx?CategoryID=624"]Francis Cardinal Arinze and the Apostolate for Family Consecration[/url]

It has video and commentaries by Arinze.

BTW, I have been at two Masses with Cardinal Arinze, and he is the most orthodox, straightforward, hilarious, youth-loving bishop I have ever seen (besides of course John Paul the Great).

I would really recommend checking out this video.

[jrndveritatis]

Oh, and he is supposed to be back to the Apostolate for Family Consecration in July. He goes there every year.

Unless his plans get changed in a couple weeks.

Well, maybe it could be his first trip to the United States as the Holy Father...

But all in God's hands.

[dUSt]

WOW!

Thank you for finding these videos! Arinze rocks. I want him to be pope.

[dUSt]

HAHAHAHA!!!

A dude says to Arinze, "people don't believe missing mass is a mortal sin".

Arinze's reply, "Well, haha, if a car runs over you you may not believe it will kill you, but I would not like to go through that experience just because I don't believe it."

Totally sweet.

[dUSt]

Arinze: "The tabernacle must be PROMINENT, DISTINCT and immediately identifiable."

Guy: "Not stuck in a back room somewhere?"

Arinze: "That would be wrong."

[dUSt]

Dude. This man must be elected. He's got the likability of JPII and the discipline of Ratzinger.

[dUSt]

Arinze: "If there is no light, you don't solve it by condemning the darkness, you solve it by lighting a candle."

[dUSt]

"Greet eachother outside of church. When you get inside church be silent."

[dUSt]

"The church never said to remove the altar rails... If anyone can find me something where the church said to remove the altar rails I will give him a reward."

[jrndveritatis]

[quote]Dude. This man must be elected. He's got the likability of JPII and the discipline of Ratzinger. [/quote]

Exactly. Not to say that John Paul the Great had no discipline. Ratzinger just has the more prominent or public discipline because he was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

But I think greatest thing about Arinze is that he would be awesome with young adults like us. That is what we need. John Paul is renewing the Church through the younger generations. Not that he abandoned the older ones, but they scoffed at him. The youth are our hope, and Arinze has the personality and character to continue to lead the youth to the truth.

[conservativecatholic]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Apr 9 2005, 04:15 PM'] "The church never said to remove the altar rails... If anyone can find me something where the church said to remove the altar rails I will give him a reward." [/quote]
Awesome! I never realized how traditional Arinze was. On the other hand, liturgical dancing is prevalent in Nigeria which prompts some concern with his supposed support for "traditional liturgical worship."

Edited April 9, 2005 by conservativecatholic

[MC Just]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Apr 9 2005, 04:15 PM'] "The church never said to remove the altar rails... If anyone can find me something where the church said to remove the altar rails I will give him a reward." [/quote]
LOL. Arinze has got to become Pope.

[Guest Eremite]

[quote]Liturgical dancing is prevalent in Nigeria though.[/quote]

It's very different though. I'm listening to the Arinze video right now, and he (humourously) noted that in America, dancing is associated with Saturday Night Disco. In Africa, it's always been a part of the religious culture, before they were a Christian. It's not just something people do for fun. Cardinal Ratzinger also makes the point in his book on the Liturgy that the "dancing" done in those countries where it is traditional is not really dancing, but more like rhythmic moving.