DemonSlayer Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote name='myduwigd' date='Apr 21 2005, 12:16 PM'] ok, wow I love how no one is listening to me at all. Im not attacking him, IM just saying that he looks scary. Also, this man used to be a Nazi. No, he is not beyond redemption for that fact, but he should never be in a position of spiritual authority. There are some things that a person just simply cannot do and recover from. It would take the rest of one's life to be healed and fight the consequences. [/quote] Apart from Hitler Youth membership being compulsory, when he tried to leave, he risked death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myduwigd Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) Im not gonna argue about this anymore because no one is giving me the time of day. But I am gonna say something: Satan is not speaking through me, dont you dare accuse me of that. I dont claim to speak for God, but I am not speaking for Satan. It is very unwise to accuse me of that since it is untrue. Honestly, I dont think that would please God very much. Also, I am not against the Pope because of the dark circles around his eyes. I actually look at his eyes, and those are creepy. Eyes are windows into one's soul and if your observant you can see that I make a good point. I will go and read what he has written and if you are willing to listen to me after I read them I will come and state my opinion. Also, he was a former Nazi; Im a psych major when you teach a child or young teen to live that way it has lasting effects on their psyche. Im seriously worried about this man. I have no intention on bashing him or mocking and rediculing him. There is nothing wrong with stating my opinion. AM i not allowed to dislike the Pope? I do not give into media lies. I form a prayerful opion on my own. I feel that i am being rediculed and disrespected. I will leave this forum if yo udo not stop persecutin gme for my opinion. In the Bible it says to shake the dust from your feet and leave the town if they will not accept you. I just want to get you guys thinking about how I feel. Im not trying to force you to agree with me. I am simply stating what I believe. Since when has that been wrong? I really do love you guys, but I will shake the dust off my feet and leave. Edited April 21, 2005 by myduwigd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote name='myduwigd' date='Apr 21 2005, 02:25 AM'] Also, he was a former Nazi; Im a psych major when you teach a child or young teen to live that way it has lasting effects on their psychi. [/quote] Ahem...it's spelled "psyche." He was never a Nazi. He, like millions of others, was forced into the Hitler Youth program. By your classification, there are currently at least a few hundred thousand Nazis of the Third Reich in Germany right now, just because they were forced into a program. Can there be psychological effects? Yes. Are there necessarily? No. I would say that the fact that he was a defector from the Nazi cause and that he had the strong anti-Nazi direction of his father, as well as Eugenio Pacelli, i.e. Pope Pius XII, who had been the Nuntio to Munich, are strong factors in making the point that he would not have been brainwashed and affected in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSlayer Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) But the point is that he never wanted to be a Nazi, in fact he abandoned them, it's like conscription being used to get people to serve in Iraq whether or not they want to or agree with the government's position. Edited April 21, 2005 by DemonSlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith_my_eyes Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) well I don't know a lot about this topic. I do know that we do not need to go around trying to slay people's opinions. I have no idea why any of you would say such things to myduwigd. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you can't call someone you've never met satan simply because you disagree with them. If there is one thing I can't stand it is rudeness, and that is just what this is. If you feel that you need to tear someone else apart because of who they are then I think that you need to say that you are sorry to myduwigd. I don't think that he/she did anything wrong. Proceeding with caution is always a good idea, but what you are doing is against biblical teaching, would Christ have done this, no I don't think so. He did not even call the ones that killed him SATAN. I would have to say that Christ even when he called Peter Satan he knew since he was omnipotent, ominpresent, omnicient. He would have the rights to do that. He is one of my friends and I know him well. Maybe we should all get to know him well. I think that if myduwigd is saying these things, he/she must have a good reason. Please think about what I'm saying. Love thy neighbor as thyself, that is the last lesson that I'm going to leave you with. Edited April 21, 2005 by faith_my_eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote name='faith_my_eyes' date='Apr 21 2005, 02:00 AM'] He is one of my friends and I know him well. Maybe we should all get to know him well. [/quote] Probably not a bad idea.... how about he get to know the pope well, too? I think that would be a fair deal. :tiphat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith_my_eyes Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Apr 21 2005, 02:09 AM'] Probably not a bad idea.... how about he get to know the pope well, too? I think that would be a fair deal. :tiphat: [/quote] What if I told you to get lost??? Edited April 21, 2005 by faith_my_eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 What did I say that was so horrible? Goodness. You come in here talking kumbaya and now you're telling me to get lost? Lovely. [quote]Please think about what I'm saying. Love thy neighbor as thyself, that is the last lesson that I'm going to leave you with. [/quote] Just in case you forgot what you just posted. By the way, I don't really like rudeness, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith_my_eyes Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Apr 21 2005, 02:17 AM']What did I say that was so horrible? Goodness. You come in here talking kumbaya and now you're telling me to get lost? Lovely. Just in case you forgot what you just posted.[/quote] You are trying to be mean and looking for a fight??? You just told somone to do something that they didn't want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I have no idea what you are getting so upset about. I just don't think getting to know someone is such an unreasonable thing to suggest. You suggested it yourself in defense of your friend. You just criticized other people on here for tearing someone apart without really knowing them and here you are, jumping all over me. If that isn't hypocrisy, I honestly don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith_my_eyes Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Apr 21 2005, 02:28 AM'] I have no idea what you are getting so upset about. I just don't think getting to know someone is such an unreasonable thing to suggest. You suggested it yourself in defense of your friend. You just criticized other people on here for tearing someone apart without really knowing them and here you are, jumping all over me. If that isn't hypocrisy, I honestly don't know what is. [/quote] My friend??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myduwigd Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote name='faith_my_eyes' date='Apr 21 2005, 02:00 AM'] well I don't know a lot about this topic. I do know that we do not need to go around trying to slay people's opinions. I have no idea why any of you would say such things to myduwigd. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you can't call someone you've never met satan simply because you disagree with them. If there is one thing I can't stand it is rudeness, and that is just what this is. If you feel that you need to tear someone else apart because of who they are then I think that you need to say that you are sorry to myduwigd. I don't think that he/she did anything wrong. Proceeding with caution is always a good idea, but what you are doing is against biblical teaching, would Christ have done this, no I don't think so. He did not even call the ones that killed him SATAN. I would have to say that Christ even when he called Peter Satan he knew since he was omnipotent, ominpresent, omnicient. He would have the rights to do that. He is one of my friends and I know him well. Maybe we should all get to know him well. I think that if myduwigd is saying these things, he/she must have a good reason. Please think about what I'm saying. Love thy neighbor as thyself, that is the last lesson that I'm going to leave you with. [/quote] Thank you faithmyeyes. At least someone on this forum is willing to stand up for me while Im being persecuted for no good reason. Ash Wednesday, you arenot listening to what faithmyeyes said . You are focusing on only one part of it and ignoring the important part. You seriously look like you are getting ready for a fight with him. I dont even know who this is and you just go claiming that we must be friends because we agree. You're really making me angry and i wouldnt be surprised if you are making some others angry as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myduwigd Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) hm Edited April 21, 2005 by myduwigd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender_of_the_Faith Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 [quote]You're really making me angry and i wouldnt be surprised if you are making some others angry as well. [/quote] Your persistant belief that Pope Benedict XVI was a Nazi makes me and I'm sure many others here very angry Myduwigd. It's ok to express you opinion. But this is not a matter of opinion. This is a genuine falsehood and all accounts prove it to be so. He was adamently against the Nazi movement and maintaining that he was a Nazi is extremely disrespectful and ignorant. Also, can we please not judge people by how they look. Jesus certainly didn't judge people so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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