ryanmeyersmusic Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 devilish was a sarcastic adjective, obviously lost... my apologies for not being more clear. there have been countless fruitless studies on the effects of particular types of MUSIC (not lyrical content, just musical composition) on psychology, each either ending with no evidence one way or the other, or pointing in the directoin that they wanted it to when the study began. Since trained mental health professionals have been unable to speak authoritatively on the effects different types of composition have, i find it discouraging that then Cardinal Ratzinger considered himself authority enough to issue such a statement. Also, Gregorian chant was invented far after the institution of the Eucharist, so the argument of "Sacred Music" being stagnant and unchangeable is a very loosely based one. In reality, chant or classical music evokes a MUCH more emotional response from me. I find this to be a GOOD thing.
Oik Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 [quote]i find it discouraging that then Cardinal Ratzinger considered himself authority enough to issue such a statement. [/quote] Read his writings! I tell you read his writings! Called to Communion, the Church as Communion, The Ratzinger Report, Introduction to Chrisitanity, Spirit of the Liturgy, ect., ect. [quote]In reality, chant or classical music evokes a MUCH more emotional response from me. I find this to be a GOOD thing.[/quote]
Semperviva Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 well yes technically we should never have sexual type ryhthm in the Liturgy and such- but we need to look at the particular situations and examine the cultural context for the exceptions, i think there are defintely exceptions...
ryanmeyersmusic Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 [quote]well yes technically we should never have sexual type ryhthm in the Liturgy[/quote] is that 6/8 or 4/4? sorry...
Semperviva Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 [quote name='BeenaBobba' date='May 7 2005, 07:12 PM']Have you seen [i]Schindler's List[/i]? The Nazis forced some Jews to act against other Jews. Does that mean that the Jews who were forced to act against their own people were Nazis? Of course not! Likewise, Ratzinger was no Nazi. Obviously, there is a difference between being forced into action and choosing action on one's own accord. [right][snapback]585685[/snapback][/right] [/quote] the quote ratzinger was anazi........ hitler youth.......... big differnce.... alot of 12 year old boys do um intersting things..... 6/8 or 4/4-hahhahaaaaaaa can't say i would know, lol ask someone else 4/4 is the rumor
Socrates Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 [quote name='Semperviva' date='Jun 24 2005, 07:09 PM']hitler youth.......... big differnce.... alot of 12 year old boys do um intersting things..... [/quote] Ratzinger was[b] forced [/b]into the Hitler Youth. It was compulsory at the time, NOT voluntary.
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