jezic Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 To me this sounds a lot like those political tv shows where people take sides and then begin nitpicking about the smallest details. What happened to personal Charity, self-sacrifice, and cool heads? Why are many threads frequently missing the general intent of the poster? Why is trolling allowed? just questions and concerns .....
Q the Ninja Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 I'm sorry, I have a good feeling that I'm one of the people that you are talking about. I should hope I've not offended anyone, but if I have (I bet I have) I am willing to discuss it, and if not, I still apologize.
Cam42 Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 While I am not innocent either, I have trolled LittleLes, I do it only to try and keep him on track.... For that I apologize....I will try to be more prudent in regard to him....although it is hard not to respond when he trolls us.
philothea Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 I always stop reading a thread when Little Les starts to post in it. It degrades into pointless, boring, ntipicking. Hey, maybe some of you might want to try out that "ignore" feature the upgrade has provided? OTOH, there has been plenty of nastiness even without Les.
jezic Posted June 13, 2005 Author Posted June 13, 2005 you are right that it is hard to accept it, but did not Christ do the same when we "trolled" him. I wasn't referring to anyone specifically but the state of the entire board. Now i honestly don't even bother looking at the threads. I wish i could, but again the debates go in circles without point or method. Maybe we need the mods to go nuts and lock down a bunch of stuff to get the board back on track or something ...... but something does need to be done. What would someone coming to phatmass and thinking about Catholicism think when they saw this? I wouldn't be impressed.
Brother Adam Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 [quote name='jezic' date='Jun 13 2005, 05:19 PM']To me this sounds a lot like those political tv shows where people take sides and then begin nitpicking about the smallest details. What happened to personal Charity, self-sacrifice, and cool heads? Why are many threads frequently missing the general intent of the poster? Why is trolling allowed? just questions and concerns ..... [right][snapback]610592[/snapback][/right] [/quote] People tend to get it into their head that they are God's gift to the world.
Don John of Austria Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jun 13 2005, 04:41 PM']People tend to get it into their head that they are God's gift to the world. [right][snapback]610640[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hey but I am God's gift to the world.
jezic Posted June 13, 2005 Author Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) the more i read, the more i find that i was not wrong. There has not been much good on here for a while. Goodbye Godbless Edited June 13, 2005 by jezic
MilesChristi Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 [quote]To me this sounds a lot like those political tv shows where people take sides and then begin nitpicking about the smallest details. What happened to personal Charity, self-sacrifice, and cool heads? Why are many threads frequently missing the general intent of the poster? Why is trolling allowed? just questions and concerns ..... [/quote] I think prayer could help here. If people say a brief little prayer before logging into phatmass, offering their time to the Lord and asking Him to sanctify it, things would probably grow more charitable.
kateri05 Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 i think miles has a good idea and ps. whats the new ignore feature?
Don John of Austria Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 Wow I just have such a differant view, if anything I think the Debate board is so much more regulated and though poicing than it used to be, I wonder how many of those asking for more Charity have ever really had a discussion like this in person---its the Debate board guys not the " lets all hug and sing cum-bi- ya board. real things are discussed here and sometimes people get snarky or even hurtful, is that good, no, is it essential to have that freedom to have a real debate-- yes.
Brother Adam Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 blocks out the persons posts. Tempting, but I don't want to use it.
Q the Ninja Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 I personally think that it's rare that I feel even offended by anyone here. I just remember we're not drinking coffee, but are just too lazy to keep typing to post with perfect charity. If you debate forever, it's hard to keep typing and some things become shorter and sometimes it can look uncharitable to people on the outside...
kateri05 Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 you can block people's posts? a) how? and 2) wouldn't that just make debate threads, esp, confusing? i agree with Q, sometimes thing come across as uncharitable online, esp people who have brusque styles of writing. i think the solution is to 1) make a personal point to be as chartiable as possible and b) give others the benefit of the doubt on the side of charity because it is simply SO easy to misinterpret things online like this.
Don John of Austria Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 [quote name='Q the Ninja' date='Jun 13 2005, 05:14 PM']I personally think that it's rare that I feel even offended by anyone here. I just remember we're not drinking coffee, but are just too lazy to keep typing to post with perfect charity. If you debate forever, it's hard to keep typing and some things become shorter and sometimes it can look uncharitable to people on the outside... [right][snapback]610710[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I don't know about you but I'm drinking coffee right now. If people are tired of debate we have a whole forum devoted to inanities it's called Open Mic.
Don John of Austria Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Q the Ninja' date='Jun 13 2005, 05:20 PM']I refuse to drink the coffee in my house. [right][snapback]610721[/snapback][/right] [/quote] AHHHHH Heathen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you know coffee is one of the ways that we know that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Edited June 13, 2005 by Don John of Austria
Socrates Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 I personally don't know what this complaining is about! Is there too much controversy in the [b]DEBATE[/b] table? I agree LittleLes' nonsense is silly and uncharitable trolling, with the intent of "slamming" Catholic dogma, rather than seeking truth, but I think it's important to the defend the Truth of the Catholic Faith, as an example to others. I apologize for none of my apologetic efforts in those threads. I agree with Don John. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. You can always chat with the ladies in open mic.
Good Friday Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 [quote name='Don John of Austria']Wow I just have such a differant view, if anything I think the Debate board is so much more regulated and though poicing than it used to be, I wonder how many of those asking for more Charity have ever really had a discussion like this in person---its the Debate board guys not the " lets all hug and sing cum-bi- ya board. real things are discussed here and sometimes people get snarky or even hurtful, is that good, no, is it essential to have that freedom to have a real debate-- yes.[/quote] Ditto. For those who think that the Debate Table is upsetting now, you should have been around in years gone by. Everything here is tame now. My problem with the Debate Table right now is that it seems that there are very few non-Catholics here, and it also seems that very few substantive issues are being covered. But the general tone of the Debate Table is not of concern to me right now.
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