Does a Lifeteen Mass fulfill a Sunday obligation?

[Sarah_JC]

I agree completely!
Yay for diversity of ways of praising the same God!

I like Lifeteen Halifax, it's 57%* more reverent than the average Mass in my town.

*Statistic may or may not have been made up on the spot.

[Nicole8223]

The Lifeteen Mass by me is terrible. Completely irreverent and offensive. I was so excited about the idea at first, but after going, I was appalled. I go back every once in a while to see if things changed, but they are still the same so far.

I know there are plenty of awesome Lifeteen Masses that are reverent, but my experience has been a really bad one. If you decide to go, I hope your experience is better!!

[lifeteenchick527]

all of the core at our church are very good with making sure that the mass is reverent and often during lifenites have us go to adoration and everything is very reverant

God Bless
LTC :hearts:

[Nicole8223]

That's awesome...send them here when you're done with them. These kids could use some better guidance!

[kateri05]

teens are able "help out more" with any mass, not just LIFETEEN. altar serving, ushering, lectoring and music minsitry is open to all ages, no matter what mass. and the "music is better", phillipe, isn't a good reason to chose a mass. not to mention, you can go to ANY mass and still come for LIFENite, its not just a LIFETEEN mass only thing.
this from a LIFETEEN youth minister!

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[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

latin is the normal lauguange of the mass according to vatican II

In the Vatican II document Sacrosanctum Concilium, it states, "The
Church acknowledges Gregorian chant as specially suited to the Roman
liturgy: therefore, other things being equal, it should be given pride
of place in liturgical services. But other kinds of sacred music,
especially polyphony, are by no means excluded from liturgical
celebrations...In the Latin Church the pipe organ is to be held in
high esteem, for it is the traditional musical instrument which adds a
wonderful splendor to the Church's ceremonies and powerfully lifts up
man's mind to God and to higher things. But other instruments also may
be admitted for use in divine worship, with the knowledge and consent
of the competent territorial authority (116, 120).


The 1975 Roman missal states: "Since no Catholic would now deny the
lawfulness and efficacy of a sacred rite celebrated in Latin, the
Council was able to acknowledge that "the use of the mother tongue
frequently may be of great advantage to the people" and gave
permission for its use. The enthusiasm in response to this decision
was so great that, under the leadership of the bishops and the
Apostolic See, it has resulted in the permission for all liturgical
celebrations in which the faithful participate to be in the vernacular
for the sake of a better comprehension of the mystery being celebrated
(12)."

Sacrosanctum Concilium, also demands, "the use of the Latin
language is to be preserved in the Latin rites"(36.1).But since the
use of the mother tongue, whether in the Mass, the administration of
the sacraments, or other parts of the liturgy, frequently may be of
great advantage to the people, the limits of its employment may be
extended. This will apply in the first place to the readings and
directives, and to some of the prayers and chants (36.2).

[Paladin D]

I'm an altar server at my home parish.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

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[Paladin D]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jul 6 2005, 07:48 PM']yeah i know thats because of the liturgical  abuses
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(I edited my post, sorry lol).

Yeah, which is a shame.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

i edited mine after you did too

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[Paladin D]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jul 6 2005, 07:48 PM']i edited mine after you did too
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[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

it didn't say edited under your post so i was like did he say that or am i going crazy?

so i went for going crazy and changed it...

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[God Conquers]

[quote name='Sarah_JC' date='Jul 6 2005, 02:37 PM']I agree completely!
Yay for diversity of ways of praising the same God!

I like Lifeteen Halifax, it's 57%* more reverent than the average Mass in my town.

*Statistic may or may not have been made up on the spot.
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However, the #1 reason for that is not the "Lifeteen Mass", it's the Fr. James Mallon Mass.

[Philippe]

[quote name='kateri05' date='Jul 6 2005, 03:20 PM']teens are able "help out more" with any mass, not just LIFETEEN.  altar serving, ushering, lectoring and music minsitry is open to all ages, no matter what mass.  and the "music is better", phillipe, isn't a good reason to chose a mass.  not to mention, you can go to ANY mass and still come for LIFENite, its not just a LIFETEEN mass only thing.
  this from a LIFETEEN youth minister! 
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why isnt good music a good reason. it doesnt really make a difference whether i go to the morning Mass or Lifeteen Mass, its just more appealing to me plus i mentioned the homilies are teen oriented

[Piccoli Fiori JMJ]

I personally think that Mass is not a rock concert and drum sets at Mass drive me nuts... I'm not there to tap and clap along like a sing-along... I'm there to offer the song as a prayer for God... I used to not have a problem with it, but it gets on my nerves... well, this could all be because I am going to be a cloistered nun, but still... Mass doesn't seemed very focused on Christ unless the music allows for this focus. We don't have Lifeteen at my parish, but we have Youth Quake family Mass and the the Youth Quake Night... just like Life Teen in many ways, including some liturgical abuses... I'm kinda against the whole "better" music... infact, I prefer Mass with little music sometimes! I think the only thing we sing for Daily Mass is the enterance and closing... that's it and its a-capella... Music is for God, not for a good time....

[Philippe]

but if its bringing people to Mass and closer to Christ how can we be complaining?

[ilovechrist]

everyone has their own way of offering their prayers, sacrifices, and wills to God. yes LifeTeen Masses at one time were very irreverent, but all that has been, and is being changed so that everyone is glorifying God in a proper manner--whether it be with an organ or guitars as instuments for the music, and whether or not the youth are taking parts as Extraordinary Ministers of the Holy Eucharist.

we all have our own preferences, but we are all one Body, one Spirit in Christ... so please stop the debating. it tears our unity over simple issues.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

any modernistic mass is in error. Stop compromising Catholicism just to apeal to the youth. if they want to be catholic they must except the FULL truth not some watered down protestanized garbage. (I am not talking about Novus Ordo just about the Masses which are riddled with Liturgical abuses)

"Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the True Church of Jesus Christ."
~St. Athanasius

[ardillacid]

Funny you should mention liturgical abuses...the equivalent of Lifeteen masses in my area have no more than the other churches. And I have never heard anything proclaimed there that isn't in step with Church teaching. just a bit ago I was at a parish here where a nun gave a homily about prisoners she visited needed to be "re-baptized." hmm which shloud i go to...

[Paladin D]

[quote name='ardillacid' date='Jul 7 2005, 02:26 AM']Funny you should mention liturgical abuses...the equivalent of Lifeteen masses in my area have no more than the other churches. And I have never heard anything proclaimed there that isn't in step with Church teaching.  just a bit ago I was at a parish here where a nun gave a homily about prisoners she visited needed to be "re-baptized." hmm which shloud i go to...
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Exactly.



If Lifeteen is a diabolical tool from Satan himself, let the Bishops or the Pope speak out. But as of now, let's not debate about it. Notice how I posted this in the [b]Open Mic[/b]. Moderators, you know what to do.