Should I go to Adoration?

[the_rev]

I am going to Green Bay tomorrow first time driving by myself, so well it's going to be interesting. I have directions from my house to the stores I want to go to, like Walmart and the Mall. Then I told my mom I'd being to the Abbey for prayer, (confession, adoration, novena prayer, mass, LOTH) and then visit the sisters at the sisterhouse as one has been praying for my vocation to the priesthood for six years. like a suprise visit. So these are the places my mom knows I'm going, now there is perpetual adoration at a parish according to mapquest 13 minutes away from the sisterhouse, however my mom won't let me go if I told her as it was like pulling teeth to get to go to the abbey and the sister house. My mom told me to avoid one highway and the directions do not take me there, so I really want to go spend time in adoration should I? Sure I know I just went to adoration for forty five minutes at the abbey but I would really like to go for more adoration as I don't get to adoration long enough.

My mother hates all teliigious things as it was like pulling teeth just to go to the abbey and sisterhouse, she thought of a millino excuses why I should not go. I actually wanted to go thursday but she scheduled something for me so I could not go actually. Then I found out tomorrow is St. Maria Goretti's feast day adn I love her so I'd love to honor God through her intercession tomorrow especially.

Advice?

[the_rev]

Please keep in mind that I would be "disobeying" my mother's wishes, and this may cause me to sin by lying saying the extra hour that I stayed in Green Bay I was somewhere else.

[LiL Kat Said]

well if it's going to make you sin then.....no.

but i can't make the decision for you, neither can anyone else on pm.
We can just tell you what we think you should do.

sooo....i think if it's going to make you sin then no.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

don't sin in the name of Jesus.

[the_rev]

bUT THEN again she won't be home when I get home so she really won't know what time I get home at....

[Fides_et_Ratio]

still would be "omission"

[Aloysius]

ommission is not always sin.

the technique is evasive action... you don't have to lie. unless she flat out asks you if you went to the adoration chapel you can probably avoid telling her about it while telling her the truth the whole time... just don't volunteer the info that you were at the adoration chapel as well.

[MilesChristi]

[quote]Please keep in mind that I would be "disobeying" my mother's wishes, and this may cause me to sin by lying saying the extra hour that I stayed in Green Bay I was somewhere else. [/quote]

In this case, I would suggest that you do not go to the parish.

Your situation reminds me of the lives of several saints. St. Faustina particularly comes to mind at the moment. They wanted to do a particular deed for God, but their superiors would not allow it. Jesus always said that they did right in obeying their superiors.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

I don't know.. in this case the intention would be to deceive in leaving out the information... to lead one to believe someone was somewhere they are not... and when the person being deceived is a parent....

doesn't sound good.

[Aloysius]

if you're going to go that route, then actually ask your mom to go so then you' are afctually obeying

otherwise, there is nothing to obey or disobey (unless she specifically said not to go anywhere else)

your intention need not be to deceive. your intention is to withold information, you do not lead her to believe one way or the other. she doesn't know anthing about the adoration chapel. you may choose either to tell her about it or not to tell her about it. if you do not tell her about it, you haven't lied or deceived. now if she asked you about it, you still don't have to volunteer info, but you can't mislead the info.

[zunshynn]

Well, definitely don't lie to her. But I mean, it can't hurt to ask. If she says no, she says no. But believe in God's power to move her heart to allow it.

[Birgitta Noel]

Al! :nono: You're right, omission is not always sin, but in this case he should do what he said he was doing.

Eddie,

Stick to what you and your Mom agreed upon. This is about trust and honesty. If you do other than what you've said she may not ever let you go to the Abbey etc again. Offer up not going to the second Adoration chapel. Christ will understand.

Also, be careful on your drive!

[Margarite]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 5 2005, 08:48 PM']ommission is not always sin.

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:rotfl:

[amy]

I said yes but I'm revoking my answer.... I didnt read the conditions before hand. She's letting you go to the sister house, so you shouldn't betray her trust and go behind her back to go to adoration as well. (Going behind someone's back to adoration... that just sounds funny) Especially since you said there'd be adoration at the Abbey. So... just my advice, take it or leave it.

Peace, amy

[Aloysius]

what? there's nothing wrong with evasive action... you should never intend to deceive but you don't have to tell everyone everything. someone attempting to stop you from doing a religious action may be left ignorant of the fact that you are doing it so long as you do not intentionally deceive them.

[the_rev]

She never said she won't let me go to the abbey again, she just doesn't understand why I keep want to keep going, (beside vocational discernment is she blind?)

I never brought it up so we have not agreed nor disagreed about it.

You know funny thing is my grandmother doesn't even know why I keep wanting to go there, and she is in favor of my vocation.

Ahhhhh!

[Aloysius]

My Evasive Action Theory (I devoloped this idea some time ago and me and my friends have used it in order to alleviate unncessary worrying and to retain the ability to do religious actions without being stopped by our parents) is in line with the CCC

[quote]2488 The right to the communication of the truth is not unconditional. Everyone must conform his life to the Gospel precept of fraternal love. This requires us in concrete situations to judge whether or not it is appropriate to reveal the truth to someone who asks for it.

2489 Charity and respect for the truth should dictate the response to every request for information or communication. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it.283
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[Birgitta Noel]

Sorry Al, I was :nono: at your first post, but I was too slow!

As for your theory, his mom does have the right to know, she's his mom, and furthermore, it's probably her car!

[IcePrincessKRS]

Mom's ALWAYS find out. It may not be right away, but they do. If you're going to the abbey and the sisterhouse already I say stick to the plan you agreed upon with your mom. If you want to go to the other parish right away then ask, say its just a couple blocks away from the sister house (which is TRUE) and that you'd like to visit, check it out, say hi to Jesus, etc. (again, all true) if worse comes to worse she still says no, but you'd be honest in asking her and letting her know it was close to the sisterhouse so you're not going way out of your way to get there.

[Old_Joe]

ooo this is a toughy. Granted spending time in adoration is always a plus, but at the same time you should obey your mother's wishes. If you do become a priest, obedience is a vow that you have to live by.