Catholic Fanatic Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. I'm new here.. this thread enticed me to become a member! I am a strict adherent to the Pope and Holy Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church. That said, I must take issue with the issue with this heresy of penis enlargement and this thread's light hearted ideas towards it. Our bodies were made in God's image, not our image, not to be altered to fit our notions of what our bodies should be.Penis enlargement is a mortal sin. Period. And those here who make light of penis enlargement are just as guilty. I'm sorry, but now that I've told you that it's mortal, if you do not heed my advice, it will be mortal in the final sense of the word. Sorry to make this my first impression. But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium! Edited July 16, 2005 by Catholic Fanatic
avemaria40 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 09:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. I'm new here.. this thread enticed me to become a member! I am a strict adherent to the Pope and Holy Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church. That said, I must take issue with the issue with this heresy of penis enlargement and this thread's light hearted ideas towards it. Our bodies were made in God's image, not our image, not to be altered to fit our notions of what our bodies should be.Penis enlargement is a mortal sin. Period. And those here who make light of penis enlargement are just as guilty. I'm sorry, but now that I've told you that it's mortal, if you do not heed my advice, it will be mortal in the final sense of the word. Sorry to make this my first impression. But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium! [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Awesome response!! Very well put, esp for ur first post welcome 2 phatmass!
Norseman82 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 07:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Welcome...bienvenido....witamy [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 07:27 PM']But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium! [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Please do break them out! If they address the topic at hand, I'm sure that's what people want to hear!
Socrates Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 07:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. I'm new here.. this thread enticed me to become a member! I am a strict adherent to the Pope and Holy Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church. That said, I must take issue with the issue with this heresy of penis enlargement and this thread's light hearted ideas towards it. Our bodies were made in God's image, not our image, not to be altered to fit our notions of what our bodies should be.Penis enlargement is a mortal sin. Period. And those here who make light of penis enlargement are just as guilty. I'm sorry, but now that I've told you that it's mortal, if you do not heed my advice, it will be mortal in the final sense of the word. Sorry to make this my first impression. But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium! [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hey Fanatic! Welcome on board! You sure live up to your name, don't you! And St. Thomas Aquinas said that to not laugh and have a sense of humor is a grave sin! While those who perpertuate this absurd scam and unjustly take other's money by preying on their insecurities is indeed a serious sin, I think mockery of this nonsense is a proper response. It should be exposed for the foolishness that it truly is! It is indeed a joke, though maybe not so funny for the victims . . . Edited July 16, 2005 by Socrates
Socrates Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 07:27 PM']Our bodies were made in God's image, not our image, not to be altered to fit our notions of what our bodies should be.Penis enlargement is a mortal sin. Period. [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] As I've said, my main issue with the pills is the fact that they're a lie and scam. However, your statement raises a question. You imply that taking the pills would be wrong if they worked because they "alter the body." By this logic, would eating certain diets, taking supplements, and exercising for the purpose of gaining muscle, losing weight, or toning one's body also be mortal sins? After all, these would "alter our bodies," too.
reelguy227 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 07:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. And those here who make light of penis enlargement are just as guilty. I'm sorry, but now that I've told you that it's mortal, if you do not heed my advice, it will be mortal in the final sense of the word. [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] So jokes that have a sexual curve to them are mortal sins ? I dont think so ,as long as your not getting pleasure from them . Edited July 16, 2005 by reelguy227
reelguy227 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 15 2005, 07:54 PM']As I've said, my main issue with the pills is the fact that they're a lie and scam. However, your statement raises a question. You imply that taking the pills would be wrong if they worked because they "alter the body." By this logic, would eating certain diets, taking supplements, and exercising for the purpose of gaining muscle, losing weight, or toning one's body also be mortal sins? After all, these would "alter our bodies," too. [right][snapback]644865[/snapback][/right] [/quote] good question
Catholic Fanatic Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) Holy Church teaches the Truth that penis enlargement is a mortal sin. Your arguments I will attempt to refute with my own reasoning based on Her teachings, but I cannot guarantee my success in using my reasoning to convey that tTruth, considering that it is my own fallen reasoning. QUOTE So jokes that have a sexual curve to them are mortal sins ? I dont think so ,as long as your not getting pleasure from them . I don't understand how the sexual jokes is analogous to penis enlargement. Also, I assume you mean pleasure as in joking. Obviously deviating sexual pleasure from jokes is a mortal sin. Please explain more. QUOTE By this logic, would eating certain diets, taking supplements, and exercising for the purpose of gaining muscle, losing weight, or toning one's body also be mortal sins? After all, these would "alter our bodies," too. These are natural ways of altering the body. Penis enlargement is unnatural. It also promotes sexual deviance in the fact that penis enlargement is a scandelous notion. It is also in itself wrong because it is scandelous. The fact that penis enlargement is a mortal sin is not my opinions; this is the teaching of Holy Church, the Defender of Truth. I do not speak on my own, but It is the Church that speaks. When you question me, you question the Church. If you knew the Church, you would know what I speak is the Truth. But as it is, you do not know the Church or else you would know my words are true. Edited July 16, 2005 by Catholic Fanatic
Kaeldra Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 ...wow harsh. If you're a catholic fanatic I have to wonder why you dont seem to espouse some of the rules of catholicism being charitable
Norseman82 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 10:58 PM']The fact that penis enlargement is a mortal sin is not my opinions; this is the teaching of Holy Church, the Defender of Truth. I do not speak on my own, but It is the Church that speaks. When you question me, you question the Church. If you knew the Church, you would know what I speak is the Truth. But as it is, you do not know the Church or else you would know my words are true. [right][snapback]644984[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Would you please point out the relevant church documents for everyone's edification? That could be what the person who started this thread is looking for.
reelguy227 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 10:58 PM'] QUOTE So jokes that have a sexual curve to them are mortal sins ? I dont think so ,as long as your not getting pleasure from them . I don't understand how the sexual jokes is analogous to penis enlargement. Also, I assume you mean pleasure as in joking. Obviously deviating sexual pleasure from jokes is a mortal sin. Please explain more. [right][snapback]644984[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You indicated that talking in light about penis enlargement is a mortal sin,so wouldnt this mean that talking about sex in a joke is a mortal sin ? Thats what I am asking.
crusader1234 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 There is a reason, as Socrates has pointed out, that the average penis size isn't getting bigger. In fact, I recently read that they have reduced the reported 'average size' to 5". In the end, regardless of whatever testimonies you've heard, the pills do not work. I was watching a plastic surgery show on TLC where they preformed surgery which was succesful, but surgery is a LOT different from taking pills which are probably carcinogenic and going to cause more problems than they cure. But yeah, I'd think that most of the time the pills are just a prime example of people giving into the temptation of their vanity.
cmotherofpirl Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 08:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. I'm new here.. this thread enticed me to become a member! I am a strict adherent to the Pope and Holy Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church. That said, I must take issue with the issue with this heresy of penis enlargement and this thread's light hearted ideas towards it. Our bodies were made in God's image, not our image, not to be altered to fit our notions of what our bodies should be.Penis enlargement is a mortal sin. Period. And those here who make light of penis enlargement are just as guilty. I'm sorry, but now that I've told you that it's mortal, if you do not heed my advice, it will be mortal in the final sense of the word. Sorry to make this my first impression. But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium! [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Somehow I doubt that enlargement of any part of your body is heresy. Its commendable to be zealous, but lets not overdo it.
ardillacid Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 The fact that penis enlargement is a mortal sin is not my opinions; this is the teaching of Holy Church, the Defender of Truth. I do not speak on my own, but It is the Church that speaks. When you question me, you question the Church. If you knew the Church, you would know what I speak is the Truth. But as it is, you do not know the Church or else you would know my words are true. [right][snapback]644984[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hey I heard that certain vegetables have the same effect on men as viagra, so should we stay away?
ofpheritup Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) Okay I thought I was done with this topic but I guess not. HELLO CATHOLIC FANATIC....loved what you said. Now to the comment about "being charitable." CHARITABLE, SCMARITABLE GO TELL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE SELLING THIS ??? That I want to know what is so CHARITABLE about giving men the impression that they are not good enough. What is so CHARITABLE about putting these men in a position where they doubt who they are. What is so CHARITABLE about these companies only motivation being to make a buck. There is nothing CHARITABLE about allowing someone to continue in their sin because you don't want to hurt their feelings. Charity sometimes means that we are going to have to correct each other. When i am wrong I EXPECT AND DEMAND my friends tell me the truth. THAT IS THE TRUE ESSENCE OF CHARITY. Whoops I almost forgot. I am going to tell the truth SIZE DOES MATTER TO ME. What matters to me is the size of your heart. Edited July 16, 2005 by ofpheritup
Brother Adam Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 11:58 PM']Holy Church teaches the Truth that penis enlargement is a mortal sin. The fact that penis enlargement is a mortal sin is not my opinions; this is the teaching of Holy Church, the Defender of Truth. I do not speak on my own, but It is the Church that speaks. When you question me, you question the Church. If you knew the Church, you would know what I speak is the Truth. But as it is, you do not know the Church or else you would know my words are true. [right][snapback]644984[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Oh great and holy one, do enlight us poor, poor beggers. For we are so ignorant oh enlightened one. Just where doth thou find such Church teachings that we may see and believe.
Paladin D Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 16 2005, 08:49 AM']Oh great and holy one, do enlight us poor, poor beggers. For we are so ignorant oh enlightened one. Just where doth thou find such Church teachings that we may see and believe. [right][snapback]645286[/snapback][/right] [/quote] What's a pope?
IcePrincessKRS Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 [quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 08:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic. Sorry to make this my first impression. But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium! [right][snapback]644844[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Welcome CF. Please do "bring out the big guns," we're all very curious to see where the Church has condemned penis enlargement. I think we all agree that is [i]can be[/i] sinful for reasons of vanity, scandal, and sexual indiscretions, however, you claim to have proof from the writings of the magisterium so I think you really should post it. People have actually been asking for just such information, so please do post it and cite your sources.
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