Seven77 Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 I saw this a few months ago.. thought id share: [url="http://www.marys-touch.com/"]http://www.marys-touch.com/[/url] [url="http://www.marys-touch.com/messages/2005/0506.htm"]http://www.marys-touch.com/messages/2005/0506.htm[/url]
Fidei Defensor Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Anyone know if the church has officially confirmed that its not a fake?
cathgirl Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='zabbazooey' date='Jul 23 2005, 10:07 PM']I'm skeptical. [right][snapback]656174[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I don't blame you. For me though, with stuff like this I would rather believe it and have it not be true that the other way around. At least while believing it I can give God glory by believing that He is awesome and is able to do stuff like this. Just a thought.
zabbazooey Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 I'm sorry but the stigmata on Julia Kim's hands looks fake to me. I can't say for sure, but I don't think it is real.
MilesChristi Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 I would be wary of this group. They have posted on their website a letter to their Archbishop. It is rather arrogant and a tone of disobedience runs through it. They even go so far as to accuse the Archdiocese of doctrinal error.
Fidei Defensor Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='cathgirl' date='Jul 23 2005, 09:10 PM']I don't blame you. For me though, with stuff like this I would rather believe it and have it not be true that the other way around. At least while believing it I can give God glory by believing that He is awesome and is able to do stuff like this. Just a thought. [right][snapback]656176[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Naturally, Im skeptical. Im just wondering if the Church verified it. Although, considering the people who would have seen it (Priest), its likely to be true.
reelguy227 Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 I agree ,not to be a cynic ,but Ill only believe in it when it is approved by the Church .
cathgirl Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='Jul 23 2005, 10:16 PM']Naturally, Im skeptical. Im just wondering if the Church verified it. Although, considering the people who would have seen it (Priest), its likely to be true. [right][snapback]656186[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Oh, I'm equally as interested in seeing if it is verified by the Church because that is the only way I will be 100% behind it. I wasn't trying to debate with or offend anyone! Sorry if i did! Anyway, I just like letting God know that I believe that He could do something like that if He wanted to no matter if the actual miracle is real or not. (sorry if that doesn't make sense )
Fidei Defensor Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='cathgirl' date='Jul 23 2005, 09:21 PM']Oh, I'm equally as interested in seeing if it is verified by the Church because that is the only way I will be 100% behind it. I wasn't trying to debate with or offend anyone! Sorry if i did! Anyway, I just like letting God know that I believe that He could do something like that if He wanted to no matter if the actual miracle is real or not. (sorry if that doesn't make sense ) [right][snapback]656192[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Exactly how i feel.
reelguy227 Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Does anyone think the Hosts dont really look like they are bleeding ?
Fides_et_Ratio Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 I'm gonna wait for the Church's decision on this one... that "blood" is a little too bright red(almost pink) for me, most blood I've seen is deeper in color. EDITED to add: Marian messages that struggle with disobedience (especially to the bishop) aren't usually declared supernatural in nature... Mary wouldn't circumvent the authority of her Son's Church. Causing strife and/or disobedience in the Church is not one of her purposes.
MilesChristi Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 I found this mentioned among their site's documents: "His Excellency Victorinus Kong Hee Youn of the Archdiocese of Kwangju in Korea made it official as of January 1, 1998, that his position on "the events arising in Naju" is negative. His grounds for this position were that (1) the messages "lacked genuineness and credibility," (2) "the phenomena alleged to be Eucharistic miracles were contradictory to the doctrine of the Catholic Church," and (3) "various strange phenomena arising from the statue of the Blessed Mother and Julia’s body produced no evidence that could prove that they were truly supernatural and thus from God." Based on this judgment, the Archbishop issued pastoral instructions that prohibited public services and promotional materials regarding Naju in his Archdiocese."
zabbazooey Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 The hosts don't look like they are really bleeding to me either, but I'm am naturally skeptical
ReinnieR Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='zabbazooey' date='Jul 23 2005, 09:07 PM']I'm skeptical. [right][snapback]656174[/snapback][/right] [/quote] same here so these were consecrated?? by whom? how did they know that these two hosts were consecrated when it came down??
curtins Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 it kinda looks like some sorta reduced fruit juice on them but it still awes me cause it looks kinda like blood and I guess thats what a bleeding Eucharist would look sorta like.
zabbazooey Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Exactly, how do we know these hosts are even consecrated? they could be random pieces of bread. I mean yeah that's weird, but look at some of the pictures of the bleeding host. Do you really think they had a camera there when that Korean priest (or bishop I can't remember) discovered the host bleeding and him freaking out? No. But anyways, that's just my two cents.
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