Eucharistic miracle like you've never seen

[Brother Adam]

lol. I'm skeptical even if they are approved by the Church.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

Actually, looking at the site.. it appears it was condemned. The bishop is the one with the authority to approve miracles/apparitions... it looks like the Archbishop condemned them as false:

[quote]"His Excellency Victorinus Kong Hee Youn of the Archdiocese of Kwangju in Korea made it official as of January 1, 1998, that his position on "the events arising in Naju" is negative. His grounds for this position were that (1) the messages "lacked genuineness and credibility," (2) "the phenomena alleged to be Eucharistic miracles were contradictory to the doctrine of the Catholic Church," and (3) "various strange phenomena arising from the statue of the Blessed Mother and Julia’s body produced no evidence that could prove that they were truly supernatural and thus from God." Based on this judgment, the Archbishop issued pastoral instructions that prohibited public services and promotional materials regarding Naju in his Archdiocese"[/quote]

..I noticed MilesChristi posted this earlier, but I wanted to bring it up again.

[Brother Adam]

Now that I look at the pictures, it doesn't look anything like blood.

[Laudate_Dominum]

They don't look anything like hosts either.. And I wonder if that chalice is real..

hehe, j/k

But seriously I'm skeptical, but I was kind of believing it a little bit.

[qfnol31]

In all the lives of the Saints that I've read, they're skeptical if they themselves have visions, so I likewise am skeptical of things I have not seen, and sometimes even if the Church has given her approval.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='qfnol31' date='Jul 24 2005, 10:30 AM']In all the lives of the Saints that I've read, they're skeptical if they themselves have visions, so I likewise am skeptical of things I have not seen, and sometimes even if the Church has given her approval.
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Naturally, but if the Church approves something it's solid. Otherwise you'd be doubting the Church's special charism to discern such matters. But I must say, I've never been all about apparitions and stuff like some people, I think it might to me good to steep myself in the Marian messages of the 20th century.

[Seven77]

i wonder how and why anyone would fake this. to do such a thing is insane and highly corrupt.

as far as i understand the Bishop said nothing of this particular incident. but i go with what the Church says.

regardless, this picture is something to think about every time we go to Mass and gives us an idea of the approved miracles when they actually happened.

[Old_Joe]

What about the church in Italy where the bread and wine actually became flesh and blood?

[qfnol31]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Jul 24 2005, 10:34 AM']Naturally, but if the Church approves something it's solid. Otherwise you'd be doubting the Church's special charism to discern such matters. But I must say, I've never been all about apparitions and stuff like some people, I think it might to me good to steep myself in the Marian messages of the 20th century.
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Even if the Church says something is acceptable, She also says that Catholics don't have to believe in it. I believe that no one has to accept any private revelation.

[qfnol31]

[quote name='Old_Joe' date='Jul 24 2005, 02:35 PM']What about the church in Italy where the bread and wine actually became flesh and blood?
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I have been to that church, in Orvieto. :

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='qfnol31' date='Jul 25 2005, 05:41 PM']Even if the Church says something is acceptable, She also says that Catholics don't have to believe in it.  I believe that no one has to accept any private revelation. 
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There is a common misconception surrounding this kind of thing. While Catholics are not bound to give religious assent to private revelations as we are to formal doctrines of the Faith, this does not imply that they are not important or are to be taken lightly. They aren't just there for a select few Catholics who happen to be interested in such things. Often people seem to interpret things in a way that make private revelation unimportant. But I'd say messages from Our Lord and Our Lady directed to the world in times of crisis are quite important.
And a private revelation is approved by the Church as soon as it is approved by the local Bishop. The further approval, involving Rome, really just highlights the fact that this is an important apparition worthy of recognition by the world.
I believe that having an attitude in favour of the importance of private revelation is more in keeping with the authentic mind of the Church.
I can't understand Catholics who are apathetic or disbelieving toward approved apparitions and things; I really do perceive it as an offense to the Church's prophetic charism.

Imagine the scenario of a Catholic who believes that Lourdes was all a hoax. True they would not be guilty of heresy per se, but I wonder how they would feel celebrating the feast of St. Bernadete. Or what does a Catholic who thinks Our Lady of Guadalupe was a fabrication feel on the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, Patroness of the Americas?
And Catholics who reject Fatima must think JP2 was a nut.

Just my thoughts for what they're worth. No offense intended.

[qfnol31]

I don't think that private revelation is unimportant, but rather that it's importance in the role of my salvation is way too often overemphasized. I personally am skeptical of many things, and that does include private revelations. There are a few more recent ones that this includes, but I'd rather not mention them here.

I trust the Church in what she does, and I believe it only includes an nihil obstat, not a requirement for me to believe in it.