"Blessed are you among women?

[journeyman]

Did I see that Bro Adam was picking up some languages this summer? I think they were Greek and Latin . . .

[StColette]

I believe he was taking Greek , I'm not sure though.

lol I can tell you all about kecharitomene

[thessalonian]

[quote name='Corinthians13' date='Aug 1 2005, 05:28 PM']I heard something recently concerning Elizabeth calling Mary "blessed among women."

According to Fr. Mitch Pacwa, in Hebrew (or Aramaic - or w/e it was, lol) there are no superlatives.  So Elizabeth could not say "You are the most blessed woman."

Instead of using superlatives, they would say "blessed among" or something to that affect.  When Elizabeth says "Blessed are you among women." she is saying "You are the most blessed woman."
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Certainly in the English it is a bit ambiguous.
The idea that it says she is just another of the millions of blessed women is total nonsense. If she is not more blessed then I've got land to sell you in Floriday. Why would scripture even say it if it just meant, oh she recieved a blessing. How nice. She recieved the son of God in her womb and brought infinite blessings in to her life and in to the world. This is plain for any but the hardest of hearts to see. Pacwa's thoughts are intuitively obvious. Anything else is just plain dumb.

[Laudate_Dominum]

There is truth to this. It is possible (and perhaps most appropriate) to translate the text as "most blessed are you among women". Some translations take this route.

What's most interesting to me in the Visitation are the OT connections.

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Aug 1 2005, 11:27 PM']There is truth to this. It is possible (and perhaps most appropriate) to translate the text as "most blessed are you among women". Some translations take this route.

What's most interesting to me in the Visitation are the OT connections.
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you mean the parallels w/ the OT ark? please, do elaborate

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='StColette' date='Aug 1 2005, 06:33 PM']hmmm that's interesting. Nick have you ever heard of this ?
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yes, i do recall this argument.

[StColette]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Aug 2 2005, 12:00 AM']you mean the parallels w/ the OT  ark? please, do elaborate
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Hey I wrote a tract about that rofl

Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of the purest gold for God's Word. Mary is the ark of the New Covenant and is the purest vessel for the Word of God made flesh.

2 Sam. 6:7 - the Ark is so holy and pure that when Uzzah touched it, the Lord slew him. This shows us that the Ark is undefiled. Mary the Ark of the New Covenant is even more immaculate and undefiled, spared by God from original sin so that she could bear His eternal Word in her womb.

1 Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account of Uzzah and the Ark. For God to dwell within Mary the Ark, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God would let the finger of Satan touch His Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.

1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the awesome reverence the Jews had for the Ark - veneration, vestments, songs, harps, lyres, cymbals, trumpets.

Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.

Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.

Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.

Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Mary / the Ark remained in the house for about three months.

hehe scripturecatholic