Timothy Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 A friend of mine has told me that he believes he is a prohet and recieves messages from God. Am I to believe him? What does somebody do after hearing these things? I have prayed for guidence from God. Just curious to see what you all would do? What would you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 You'll know by what he says, if it truely comes from God then it will come true extactly how God said it would. but if it doesn't come true, even though he doesn't speak it, you will know its false. Time my Friend Time, Also alot of prayer. Ask God for revelation of this truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Also, see if what he is saying is in accordance w Church teaching. No genuine private revelations are in conflict with Church teachings. Prayer and discernment is a wise course of action. Also, you might want to see if your friend would talk to a priest about it to see what the priest thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think they used to wait and see in the Old Testment. If the prophet spoke truth, He was honored, because he was of God, but if he spoke falsely meaning what he says didn't come true, then they'd basically disanounce him and stone him to death. Now since we live in modern day times, we dont stone folks anymore, but a lesson can be learned from this. If a Prophet spoke Truth, then you will know if it came true, then it is true, but if it doesn't come true, what he says is false. Its just a matter of Patience, Guidence, Timing, and Prayer wit hGod to understand. and I personally believe it requires much more than this in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semperviva Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 he could have the 'gift of prophecy' ...quite possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ave Maria Totus Tuus Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 [quote name='scardella' date='Aug 3 2005, 02:59 PM']Also, see if what he is saying is in accordance w Church teaching. No genuine private revelations are in conflict with Church teachings. Prayer and discernment is a wise course of action. Also, you might want to see if your friend would talk to a priest about it to see what the priest thinks. [right][snapback]670360[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 [quote name='Timothy' date='Aug 3 2005, 02:25 PM']A friend of mine has told me that he believes he is a prohet and recieves messages from God. Am I to believe him? What does somebody do after hearing these things? I have prayed for guidence from God. Just curious to see what you all would do? What would you say? [right][snapback]670249[/snapback][/right] [/quote] After hearing these things, I'd call the looney bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Aug 3 2005, 10:55 PM']After hearing these things, I'd call the looney bin. [right][snapback]670916[/snapback][/right] [/quote] It depends if the person believes he's receiving public revelation, or just private revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Well basically most of his revelations have been about the United States and the anit christ. He has told me about dreams that he states are from God that have told him the end is near. Which mostl of them have been to that extent so far.... However, recently he has told me that he had a mesage from Christ that he saw me in hell. Now with that said....WHAT DO I DO?? I don't think I have done something aweful that would offend Christ to the extent to cast me into the depths of hell. But I am human and I will be going to confession in the near future. But with that said how does one respond to a self pro claimed prophet who claims that he has recieved a message in the form of a dream and he saw me and another one of his friends in hell. Most people would just play it off as a bad dream, but this guy insist that it wasn't. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Also, don't just judge the content of the supposed "revelations", but look at his life. By their fruits you will know them. Is he an orthodox Catholic? Is he humble, devout, joyful, etc? As a general rule of thumb, a person who goes about flaunting their supposed "revelations" isn't getting any. How often did Jesus tell someone he healed, "go, and tell no one". Don't worry about him saying you're going to hell. Make an examination of conscience, go to confession, and let that be the end of it. You can't worry about the future. You just have to live your life, and pray for the grace of perseverance. John Paul II is alleged to have said, during a visit to Fulda, Germany: [quote]"Many wish to know simply from curiosity and a taste for the sensational, but they forget that knowledge also implies responsibility. They only seek the satisfaction of their curiosity, and that is dangerous if at the same time they are not disposed to do something, and if they are convinced that it is impossible to do anything against evil." [Then, grabbing a rosary, he said:] "Here is the remedy against this evil. Pray, pray, and ask for nothing more. Leave everything else to the Mother of God."[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 I don't want to say anything negative about him, beacuase I try not to do that to anybody. However, I will say he probally has more enemies then friends. John Paul II's advice will be used and I will do as he says. Thank you and God Bless you for showing me that. Now what would you all do if this happened to you, becuase I for some reason have been really depressed ever since he told me this. And he tells me this 1 week before my wedding 8-13-05 : (which by the way he had the dream 2-3mths ago???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Timothy, Are you depressed because everything he said has come to pass? You never stated if he was Catholic. Look, talk to your confessor. If you have examined your conscience, and gone to confession, then that is all you can do at this time. Maybe his revelation is future tense. In the fact that it "could" happen by some future events. You know, you took a "wrong turn", so to speak. I get the feeling that you are devout. With that in mind, and this revelation, it may be just the thing to keep you on the narrow road. Even St. John warned first the results of their continued activity of the Church's in Revelation. It wasnt definite. They were warned that if they continued in what they were doing, then their lamp stands would be removed. This may be more of a blessing for you, and should not depress you in any way. How many people would love to get a warning ahead of time. Pax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) I spoke to my confessor and he had many things to say in regards to the so-called revelation that was had. Among the comments were "most erroneous, completely false, what is he on?, stupid..etc...." I think you get the point. As for my short depression, it was due to the idea of the single most important thing in my life (Christ) taken away from me. Just imagine spending eternity without the love of Christ in your life....very depressing. But after prayer and speaking to my priest I am back on track and happy again. Now here is the question I pose. What would you say to the person going around saying these things? Especially, if you see them regularly Oh yeah, he is Catholic. Edited August 5, 2005 by Timothy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Timothy, Here's a good article on private revelations in general: [url="http://www.catholic-pages.com/bvm/private_revelations.asp"]http://www.catholic-pages.com/bvm/private_revelations.asp[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) [quote]© What virtues does the person have? What was his general level before and after the alleged revelation? If a great advance in holiness is seen, and it seems to have come from the revelation, there is good probability for the revelations. We think of the Fatima children. But if the seer has stayed at the ordinary level of virtue, the visions come under some suspicion, for would God use extraordinary means to lead to a merely ordinary state of holiness? Exception: God might use an ordinary person to help others. The message of Fatima for example would have ample justification even if the children had not become holy: this message God wanted given to the world. And the three things asked for are theologically sound and called for independently of any revelation.[/quote] This one sticks out in particular. After his revolation he cliamed to to self indulge and get caught up in earthly things( as a mechanism to forget about it). He bought a home theater system worth about $10k. Now if I had a revolation from Christ and I$10k to spend I would hope I would give it to the Catholic Relief Fund or something to that nature. Edited August 5, 2005 by Timothy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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