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[quote name='Semalsia' date='Sep 14 2005, 05:31 PM'][quote name='Socrates']People's actions define who they are.

The whole problem is, we are encouraging this "orientation" to define who a person is, rather than encouraging people to take responsibility for their lives and actions, and make moral choices.
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I don't agree with this. Actions don't define who or what people are. People are what they are. And what they are determines their actions. People are many things, but their actions may not show much of it.

Now, gay/homosexual = someone who feels attracted to the same sex. So if someone feels this SSA, then he/she is gay. That's by definition. Actions have nothing to do with it, or moral choices, or anything else.

Funny you should say something like that, actually. Doesn't seem to apply to gender roles, I see. I guess defining people by their sex and not by their actions or other attributes is an exception to the rule.
And about the parenting issue. Gays have and will have children whether you like it or not. And there is nothing you can do about it.

'Natural' and 'unnatural' mean nothing.
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i assume you mean that people are what they are based on feelings. A psychologist will tell you that feelings come from thoughts.........sometimes its hard to tell. Thoughts are triggered by stimuli........through the 5 senses. Throughout life we experience things that stimulate our senses. This is how we learn. We learn what we like and dont like based on the experiences that we have had. Nobody is born gay.........they basically learned it directly or indirectly. At least i can walk you through a logical process that leads to a logical conclusion. you simply just state what you believe without any logical reasoning.

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[quote name='infinitelord1' date='Sep 13 2005, 04:07 AM']I also struggle with SSA. I was wondering since you say that "you dont have to accept them" if you know a way to feel OSA.............lol.
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I have always felt OSA, so that wasn't really an issue for me. I just choose not to act on same-sex feelings.

But I do know that sexual feelings are not something you can force upon yourself. You either have them, or you don't. but you can choose not to act on them, and you CAN live a chaste life.

if this is something you are really having a hard time with, it might be good to seek counseling. There are a lot of Catholic therapists who can help with SSA.

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