Krush2k2 Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Is Rudy pro choice? I wonder because I bet anything he runs for president and it becomes him verse Hilary after all is said and done. And if so, would a Catholic still be morally obligated to vote if both candidates were pro choice? Thanks homies
Socrates Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Rudy is pro-abortion. I liked his "tough-on-crime" approaches to cleaning up NYC, but with abortion and other moral issues, he is against Catholic teaching.
Krush2k2 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Posted September 2, 2005 So if it was him vs Hilary is a Catholic obligated not to vote if they all canidates are pro abortion?
Socrates Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='Krush2k2' date='Sep 2 2005, 06:53 PM']So if it was him vs Hilary is a Catholic obligated not to vote if they all canidates are pro abortion? [right][snapback]709086[/snapback][/right] [/quote] A Catholic could vote for Rudy to prevent the greater evil of a Hillary Presidency, though he would not be obligated to do so. But voting for Hillary would just be plain evil!!!
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 yes Rudy is pro-abortion he came to Loyola college and spoke in Baltimore. The Cardinal Keeler refused to go to the graduation because he was the keynote speaker. and the Newman society protested him bieng there.
Lounge Daddy Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 rudy seems just as pro-abort as clinton a choice between the two - i'll not vote for either of em i am hoping for someone else to get the nom - and i believe someone else will not rudi - and not mcCain... they are only a media show... but the GOP voters will never back them, they do not hold to the core values of the drivers of the party probably Condi Rice will get it - in my opinion
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 i don't think so............
ardillacid Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Sep 2 2005, 09:21 PM']rudy seems just as pro-abort as clinton a choice between the two - i'll not vote for either of em i am hoping for someone else to get the nom - and i believe someone else will not rudi - and not mcCain... they are only a media show... but the GOP voters will never back them, they do not hold to the core values of the drivers of the party probably Condi Rice will get it - in my opinion [right][snapback]709170[/snapback][/right] [/quote] core values? you truly believe the republican party has "core values." you kid yourself, the republican party continues moving left. Liberal immigration, welfare, social security, HUGE government. what core values are you talking about
photosynthesis Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 2 2005, 09:07 PM']yes Rudy is pro-abortion he came to Loyola college and spoke in Baltimore. The Cardinal Keeler refused to go to the graduation because he was the keynote speaker. and the Newman society protested him bieng there. [right][snapback]709096[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I remember that... I'm living in baltimore too.. my college's graduation speaker was nancy pelosi... but my school is liberal as all get out
photosynthesis Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I think Elizabeth Dole would make a good president.
curtins Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I like Rudy but I wouldn't vote for him because he is pro death. Our country is d00med if Billary gets into office
Lounge Daddy Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 [quote name='curtins' date='Oct 2 2005, 10:43 AM'] Our country is d00med if Billary gets into office [right][snapback]743601[/snapback][/right] [/quote] lol - "billary"
dspen2005 Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Sep 2 2005, 10:21 PM']rudy seems just as pro-abort as clinton a choice between the two - i'll not vote for either of em i am hoping for someone else to get the nom - and i believe someone else will not rudi - and not mcCain... they are only a media show... but the GOP voters will never back them, they do not hold to the core values of the drivers of the party probably Condi Rice will get it - in my opinion [right][snapback]709170[/snapback][/right] [/quote] no offense... but are you on crack??? there is no way condi Rice will get the nomination -- 1) she's black, 2) she's a woman -- this country, IMHO, is not ready for a president who would make precedent on 2 arenas.
Iacobus Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Oct 2 2005, 08:29 AM']didn't she run already? [right][snapback]743583[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I think she ran in the primaries in 2000. I am not sure, but I am pretty sure she did run but lost out in the primaries. Condi, like Rudy, is described as "mildly pro-choice."
Lounge Daddy Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='ardillacid' date='Oct 2 2005, 02:28 AM']core values? you truly believe the republican party has "core values." you kid yourself, the republican party continues moving left. Liberal immigration, welfare, social security, HUGE government. what core values are you talking about [right][snapback]743463[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hey - i said the "core values [i]of the drivers of the party[/i]" ... i meant the people who donate and vote the primaries... the ones who are primarily pro-life conservatives, and we would not support blantent anti-life candidates like rudi and McCain also - many people (esp the liberal Dem pundits) under-estimate the Christian vote i also know about the "core values" of many Republican politicians - and these knuckle-heads need a big slap upside the head --- naturally spending and borders/immigration will be big issues come 2008
Lounge Daddy Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='dspen2005' date='Oct 2 2005, 11:48 AM']no offense... but are you on crack??? there is no way condi Rice will get the nomination -- 1) she's black, 2) she's a woman -- this country, IMHO, is not ready for a president who would make precedent on 2 arenas. [right][snapback]743645[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [img]http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/fotos/rice_boots.gif[/img] c'mon yall you don’t think America is ready for this? she's smart, way more capable than Hillary (the inevitable Dem 2008 candidate), articulate, and she looks ready to kick ass. As long as she is runs the campaign leaders instead of letting the campaign leaders run her (like Bob Dole did) she would rock the campaign 2008 and be a hell of a president
Aloysius Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I want Santorum... please God let Santorum get the nomination! the best convincing factor to get the republicans to nominate santorum is the possibility that he could take Pennsylvania...which would be a major victory.
Lounge Daddy Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Oct 5 2005, 10:20 AM']he could take Pennsylvania...which would be a major victory. [right][snapback]746784[/snapback][/right] [/quote] true, that :
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