HIGH MASS!

[zabbazooey]

I didn't really like the homily at the church i went to.

[avemaria40]

wat's a High Mass? Is it like Midnight Mass @ Christmas, or Easter Vigil or something?

[Cam42]

[quote name='avemaria40' date='Sep 4 2005, 05:37 PM']wat's a High Mass?  Is it like Midnight Mass @ Christmas, or Easter Vigil or something?
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It's actually much more simple than that. It is a Mass that is sung, as opposed to spoken.

The distinctions come in what a solemn Mass is, as opposed to a Missa Cantata.

A solemn Mass is a high Mass that has two deacons.
A Missa Cantata is a high Mass that has no deacon, but is still sung. The vast majority of Masses are Missa Cantata.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='avemaria40' date='Sep 4 2005, 05:37 PM']wat's a High Mass?  Is it like Midnight Mass @ Christmas, or Easter Vigil or something?
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I'm sorry you've never been to one...

[Cam42]

[quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Sep 4 2005, 06:05 PM'] I'm sorry you've never been to one...
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Chances are everyone has been to one.....it is not only a Latin experience. An English Mass that is sung is considered a high Mass.

[zabbazooey]

I've never heard of them.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='Cam42' date='Sep 4 2005, 06:06 PM']Chances are everyone has been to one.....it is not only a Latin experience.  An English Mass that is sung is considered a high Mass.
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yeah I know, but I think the chances are more likely that people under 25 or so haven't been to one. Very unfortunate.

[homeschoolmom]

1. We went to the Cathedral today.

2. The homily was sort of hurrican/love your neighbory

3. I've been to a High Mass.

4. [quote]But my real point is that harshness does not win friends nor does it influence people.[/quote] There should be a book about this subject.

5. BO?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

high mass is great.

I have a question cam

since the office of sub deacon no longer exists

could an altar boy be considered a sub deacon?

and can a high mass have altar boys?

[Cam42]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 4 2005, 06:27 PM']high mass is great.

I have a question cam

since the office of sub deacon no longer exists

could an altar boy be considered a sub deacon?

and can a high mass have altar boys?
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An acolyte can be vested in tunic and serve as a "sub deacon." Or there can be two deacons who serve the Mass.

No an altar boy cannot serve as a "sub deacon." Redemptionis Sacramentum spells out that there should be no blurring of the lines between the laity and the clergy in the Liturgical action. Since serving as a sub deacon requires wearing a tunic, then it would not be appropriate.

Yes a high Mass should have altar boys. Who do you think holds the torches and serves the Mass? There have always been altar boys. A thurifer, boat bearer, crucifer, candle bearers, and torch bearers. so, there should be at least 11 servers at a High Mass.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

so an aycolyte has the same function as an altar boy except an acolyte must be installed?

[Cam42]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 4 2005, 07:10 PM']so an aycolyte has the same function as an altar boy except an acolyte must be installed?
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No, an acolyte is the second of the minor orders en route to becoming a priest. It is more than being an altar boy. An acolyte is a formal function within the life of the Church. He is the ordinary minister of the altar. He will assist the deacon and the priest, just as the deacon and the priest assist the bishop. An altar boy is an extra ordinary minister, in light of there not being enough acolytes to serve the Mass. That is a big distinction. Just as the lector is the ordinary minister of the Word.

1. Lector
2. Acolyte
3. Deacon

(Candidacy is given by the Ordinary at some point during Theology.)

4. Priest
5. Bishop

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

thanks Cam