Amazing that some Catholics think this

[Dave]

As many of you know, I attend an indult Tridentine Latin Mass parish which is staffed by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. While I'd say most of the people there aren't what you'd call "radical traditionalists" (more appropriately termed "false traditionalists"), I've nevertheless met a few -- people who see nothing wrong with what Archbishop Lefebvre did, people who blame the Church's problems on Vatican II, people who absolutely abhor the Novus Ordo Mass, etc. I once posted on here that I'd discovered that there were those in the parish who, if they had plans to travel in areas with no Tridentine Masses, would just get a dispensation from their Sunday obligation. Well, today I met a new guy at my parish who's visiting from New Orleans and who might relocate to Atlanta permanently. The only time he'll attend Novus Ordo Masses is for weddings and funerals. It doesn't matter how reverent or beautiful any given Novus Ordo Mass is; he'll only attend Tridentine Masses or the occasional Eastern rite Divine Liturgy. As a result, if he can't get to an indult Mass, whether on a Sunday or weekday, he'll attend Mass at an SSPX chapel or even a sedevacantist chapel. And if he can't even get to one of those places, he just won't go to Mass and instead read the prayers of that day's Mass from his missal (yes, even on Sunday). And in my conversations with him he seemed to imply that he doesn't consider the Novus Ordo Mass valid when said in the vernacular.

Arrgghh ... please pray for false traditionalists!

[cmotherofpirl]

yep another poor sucker swimming with the sharks.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

i bet he thinks the same thing about you............

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 18 2005, 10:50 PM']i bet he thinks the same thing about you............
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Yes but I happen to be faithful to the actual Catholic Church, not my own opinons.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Sep 18 2005, 09:44 PM']yep another poor sucker swimming with the sharks.
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[dspen2005]

tsk. tsk...

can we say that he is outside the bosom of Holy Mother Church??? especially, in light of the fact, that She thinks and proclaims otherwise

[cmotherofpirl]

If the guy has decided on his own personal opinon that the Mass is not valid, he is put himself outside looking it, a very sad place to be.

[scardella]

I'm glad that wasn't me!

But then again, I'm in Houston...

[zabbazooey]

Why would you go to a schismatic church or miss Mass?

That makes no sense.

"I'm faithful to the Magisterium by attending schismatic group's Masses and if I can't get to one of those, I just miss the Sunday Mass"

What a moron.

[Piccoli Fiori JMJ]

[quote name='zabbazooey' date='Sep 18 2005, 10:37 PM']Why would you go to a schismatic church or miss Mass?

That makes no sense.

"I'm faithful to the Magisterium by attending schismatic group's Masses and if I can't get to one of those, I just miss the Sunday Mass"

What a moron.
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Even then, I'd make a major effort to make it to an "acceptable" Mass rather than just kinda sitting back and praying... I think Mass is more important than what this fellow is making out of it. Sure, it may be hard to get through if it isn't exactly as we like it, but its another cross we bear for Christ... evidently some people think that they are better than others in certian aspects...

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='zabbazooey' date='Sep 18 2005, 11:37 PM']Why would you go to a schismatic church or miss Mass?

That makes no sense.

"I'm faithful to the Magisterium by attending schismatic group's Masses and if I can't get to one of those, I just miss the Sunday Mass"

What a moron.
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the man is not a moron just because he thinks differently than you do.

how uncharitiabile

[zabbazooey]

Well you are if you think you're being faithful to the church by missing mass....then you're an idiot

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

just because someone thinks differently than you does not make them an idiot. the man obviously thinks that he is right. so he may be wrong but you might be wrong. believe what you like but he is not an idiot because he thinks differently. b

[Cam42]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 19 2005, 07:58 PM']just because someone thinks differently than you does not make them an idiot. the man obviously thinks that  he is right. so he may be wrong but you might be wrong. believe what you like but he is not an idiot because he thinks differently. b
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And Sam, that is the problem....he thinks that he is right. That is not correct. It is not about what he thinks. It is about what is true.

That is where the disconnect takes place.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 19 2005, 07:58 PM']just because someone thinks differently than you does not make them an idiot. the man obviously thinks that  he is right. so he may be wrong but you might be wrong. believe what you like but he is not an idiot because he thinks differently. b
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Its not that he thinks differently , its that he thinks wrongly. Refusing to go a Mass because it doesn't meet his standards but DOES meet the Church standards [u]is[/u] idiotic.
He is being a magisterium of one - a protestant, no matter what name he gives himself.

[Dreamweaver]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Sep 19 2005, 07:05 PM']Its not that he thinks differently , its that he thinks wrongly. Refusing to go a Mass because it doesn't meet his standards but DOES meet the Church standards [u]is[/u] idiotic.
He is being a magisterium of one - a protestant, no matter what name he gives himself.
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<insert US Army logo here>
A False Traditionalist is a Magisterium of One.

Edited September 20, 2005 by Dreamweaver

[brendan1104]

I wouldn't go so far as to attend a sedevacantist chapel...

[zabbazooey]

[quote name='Dreamweaver' date='Sep 19 2005, 08:02 PM']<insert US Army logo here>
A False Traditionalist is a Magisterium of One.
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Where's Dudette? We need her to make a logo!

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

niether would i go to a tsedevacantist chapel.

would you call all jews, muslims, pagans and atheists idiots too?

Edited September 20, 2005 by Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[zabbazooey]

you don't get it sam, it's an obligation for every catholic that they attend Sunday Mass.....I didn't mention jews or muslims or anything else

Specifically Catholics.