Will homosexuals make it to heaven?

[infinitelord1]

I think this is a good question to ask since im sure many have wondered the same thing. Please read 1 Corinthians 6:9...........it pretty much shows who is not worthy of the kingdom of heaven. I dont think (personally) that this suggests they are going to hell since purgatory, according to the catholic church, exists. What do you people think?

[CatholicAndFanatical]

I think that as long as they live a chaste life and live for God, they will enter heaven.

But that pretty much goes for any single person, gay or not.

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='CatholicAndFanatical' date='Sep 27 2005, 02:21 PM']I think that as long as they live a chaste life and live for God, they will enter heaven.

But that pretty much goes for any single person, gay or not.
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i agree.........i was just referring to active homosexuals.

[CatholicAndFanatical]

oh..well according to my 8 ball 'Out look not so good'

but thats just my 8 Ball, I havent a clue

Edited September 27, 2005 by CatholicAndFanatical

[Nathan]

Active homosexuals -- those who actively engage in homosexual lifestyles -- are defiantly living in a state of mortal sin. So, for these people, the prognosis ain't good.

However, God's mercy is a mystery. No man -- lay or clergy -- can say for sure whether an individual is going to Hell.

[Jaime]

I am very grateful that I am not responsible for two things

Deciding who my friends marry

Deciding who goes to hell.



I would NEVER get any sleep.

[Sojourner]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Sep 27 2005, 03:03 PM']I am very grateful that I am not responsible for two things

Deciding who my friends marry

Deciding who goes to hell. 
I would NEVER get any sleep.
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Amen.

[jezic]

they might .....

[track2004]

Anyone and everyone only might...

[thessalonian]

God is the judge of culpability. Individually perhaps a young boy was forced in to it and didn't know any better. Who knows? God sees the heart. Anyone who is not ready to stand before him and repent of the homosexual activity WILL GO TO HELL. A true homosexual is one who has a hardened heart that will not acknowledge it is wrong. That is what is so bad about these pro-gay movements.

[Cam42]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Sep 27 2005, 04:03 PM']I am very grateful that I am not responsible for two things

Deciding who my friends marry

Deciding who goes to hell. 
I would NEVER get any sleep.
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[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=39782&hl="]This[/url] shows that you don't sleep much now does it......sleepy yet?

[Apathy]

Heaven, hell, purgatory and limbo?
All the same old same old to me. Whatever happens just happens. Is there really a differenece?

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Apathy' date='Sep 28 2005, 08:59 AM']  Is there really a differenece?
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They don't serve breakfast in hell.

[Didacus]

The judgement of God is perfect, in this I trust.

I ain't going to worry about who goes to hell or not, I've haven't got time for that. Too busy worrying about my own soul 9and yes, there's plenty to worry about - working on it though).

Needless to say, acrtive homosexuals need to repent to assure their grace; but we all have our issues. If this is mortal sin or not; I think it just might be but can't tell for sure. I think the worse thing is the pro-homo groups that try to any extent to justify homosexuality. I think the only time in the Bible where God or Jesus actually attribute themselves the concept of hate is towards those who carry their brothers/sisters towards wicked things. i'll try to find the precise passage a little later. But those who push others to sin seem to be in a whole lot of hot water in their afterlife.


HSMom, think they at least serve coffee in purgatory? Boy, I hope so.

[thessalonian]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Sep 28 2005, 09:03 AM']They don't serve breakfast in hell.
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Probably with all that teeth nashing they couldn't eat it anyway.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Sep 28 2005, 10:03 AM']They don't serve breakfast in hell.
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When the toast is burned,
And all the milk has turned
And cap'n crunch is wavin' farewell.
When the big one finds you
May this song remind you
That they don't serve breakfast, in hell

[Timothy]

[quote name='thessalonian' date='Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM'] God sees the heart.  Anyone who is not ready to stand before him and repent of the homosexual activity WILL GO TO HELL.    [right][snapback]739838[/snapback][/right]
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I agree with you. God does see the heart [i]anybody[/i] who is not ready to repent before HIm will goto hell.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Didacus' date='Sep 28 2005, 09:30 AM']Needless to say, acrtive homosexuals need to repent to assure their grace; but we all have our issues.  If this is mortal sin or not; I think it just might be but can't tell for sure. 
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The Church definately declares homosexual activity to be mortal sin.
(This is does not mean necessarily that everybody who commits this sin goes to hell - they can repent and receive God's mercy like the rest of us who commit mortal sins.) However, it is definitely grave matter, no doubt about that.

[dspen2005]

we cannot make such judgements -- as we never know the mind and state of someone's soul prior to the moment of death.

[Aloysius]

just a semantical clarification:

I have noticed a common trend on phatmass to attempt to refer to sins for which someone is deemed culpabile for as 'mortal sins' and those that they are not culpable for as 'sins of grave matter'. This is correct ONLY when speaking subjectively about an individual case.

But speaking objectively, we may label all sins of grave matter as mortal sins. They have mortal potential and there is no individual case to judge culpability, so therefore it should be referred to as a mortal sin.

Thus, saying that homosexual activity is a mortal sin is not judging culpability, it is stating the objective fact that the sin has mortal potential to the soul.

Anyway, St. Paul in this passage was defining such mortal sins, and since he was not speaking about an individual case (that's just literary style to personalize it, he's clearly not talking personally to someone) he spoke objectively, saying these are the sins which keep people out of heaven, i.e. have mortal or deadly potential to the soul.

So, following St. Paul's lead, I say that homosexual activity can send you to hell. Don't do it, and if you do pray that the Lord not deem you culpable, and repent of it.