Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Jesuit Official Protests Gay Priest Ban Friday, September 30, 2005 NEW YORK — A top Jesuit official has been contacting leaders of the Roman Catholic Church to protest a soon-to-be-released Vatican document that is expected to reinforce the teaching that gays are not welcome in the priesthood. The Rev. Gerald Chojnacki (search), head of the New York Province of the Society of Jesus, said in a letter to his priests that he was asking bishops to tell Vatican officials who are drafting the policy "of the great harm this will cause many good priests and the Catholic faithful." Chojnacki wrote in the letter, dated Monday, that he had participated in the funerals of several gay Jesuit clergy over the last few years. "I find it insulting to demean their memory and their years of service by even hinting that they were unfit for priesthood because of their sexual orientation," he wrote. Chojnacki said he would be working with the Conference of Major Superiors (search), which represents leaders of religious orders in the United States including the Jesuits, Franciscans and others, and with bishops to fight "for the opportunity of a gay person to say yes to God's call in celibate service of priesthood and chaste religious life." A priest who supports the protest provided the letter to The Associated Press. A spokesman for the New York province did not respond to a request for comment Friday. A Vatican (search) official said last week that the upcoming "instruction" from the Vatican's Congregation for Catholic Education will reaffirm the church's belief that homosexuals should not be ordained. In recent decades, Vatican officials have stated several times that gays should not become priests because their sexual orientation is "intrinsically disordered" and makes them unsuitable for ministry. A Vatican-directed evaluation of all 229 U.S. seminaries is underway, and is looking for "evidence of homosexuality" in the schools among other issues, such as whether their instruction keeps with church teaching. The evaluation was organized in response to the clergy sex abuse crisis. Priests in religious orders throughout the country said in interviews that anger is building among their members about the prospect of a ban on gay seminarians. Some have said clergy are considering staging a strike on a Sunday, to show how critical gay priests are to serving the church. Priests who had not disclosed their sexual orientation to parishioners are now thinking about coming out and denouncing the idea of a ban. Others have talked about signing their names to a protest letter to the Vatican. Estimates of the numbers of gays in the priesthood vary from 25 percent to 50 percent. About one-third of the 42,500 U.S. priests are members of religious orders.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 I have one request: Pope Benedict, as the commander of the entire Jesuit order, please disband all disloyal Jesuits. Thank you.
curtins Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 I love the wording of that: Gays are not welcome in the preist hood. how hard is it to see that living ur whole life in close proximity to guys just doesnt work for people with SSA. Its like putting any streight guy in a house of 3-5 women/girls for his life. Its major distraction and major temptation.
Socrates Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='dspen2005' date='Sep 30 2005, 09:26 PM']surprise, surprise, surprise [right][snapback]742646[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I was getting ready to post the exact same thing! LOL! Dog Bites Man
Socrates Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='curtins' date='Sep 30 2005, 09:46 PM']why surprise surprise? [right][snapback]742668[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Jesuits are notoriously liberal.
Era Might Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 (edited) Lecturing the Church is, like, so 70's. How unhip of them. Edited October 1, 2005 by Era Might
curtins Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Sep 30 2005, 10:47 PM']Jesuits are notoriously liberal. [right][snapback]742669[/snapback][/right] [/quote] so why arnt they disbanded?
CatholicAndFanatical Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Yea I know im late, but this doesnt suprise me either. There is a parish in Boston - The Jesuit Urban Center who, with the help of God, will be one of them that gets shut down soon. this poor excuse for a Catholic Society canbe found here: [url="http://www.jucboston.org/2002/carroll09062002.html"]http://www.jucboston.org/2002/carroll09062002.html[/url] Again, I cant find one good Jesuit anything...
jezic Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote] Estimates of the numbers of gays in the priesthood vary from 25 percent to 50 percent. [/quote] What is up with this? I don't think that number is even near right. the media is lieing outright just because of a few (very few) way overblown cases.
zunshynn Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Are there any good Jesuits left besides Mitch Pacwa? What the heck? Did they all forget their little vow of obedience to the pope?
LSW Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote=[url="http://www.jucboston.org/2002/carroll09062002.html"]http://www.jucboston.org/2002/carroll09062002.html[/url]/quote] what the heck?!
jezic Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 yes there are some, a good number i think. The guys who run IPF (Institute for Priestly Formation) are definitely solid. (There are quite a few of them)
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='jezic' date='Oct 1 2005, 03:46 PM']yes there are some, a good number i think. The guys who run IPF (Institute for Priestly Formation) are definitely solid. (There are quite a few of them) [right][snapback]743093[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Fr. Whelan! : He doesn't run it anymore, but he's cool. Oh, and Creighton is NOT solid...they invited a homosexual man to speak at Mass about his "partner" and their difficulties in our society...
Nathan Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='zunshynn' date='Oct 1 2005, 02:37 PM']Are there any good Jesuits left besides Mitch Pacwa? What the heck? Did they all forget their little vow of obedience to the pope? [right][snapback]743087[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There are tons of obedient Jesuits -- thousands and thousands. They just don't make the news.
Spiritual_Arsonist Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Sep 30 2005, 10:20 PM']I have one request: Pope Benedict, as the commander of the entire Jesuit order, please disband all disloyal Jesuits. Thank you. [right][snapback]742641[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I second this request.
Spiritual_Arsonist Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 [quote name='Era Might' date='Sep 30 2005, 10:48 PM']Lecturing the Church is, like, so 70's. How unhip of them. [right][snapback]742671[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Like........................totally!
goldenchild17 Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 (edited) 3rd piece of craziness in 1 day... What's up with the world? Edited October 1, 2005 by goldenchild17
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