Dave Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Why can't these people just be honest and leave the Church? A Catholic Church with no Eucharist is not the Church at all! [quote]Abandon Eucharistic Doctrine, Dissidents Urge Synod Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:00:00 AM GMT Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - The international dissident movement "We Are Church" is issuing an appeal to the Catholic bishops, gathered in Rome for the Synod, to confront the "real" problems relating to the Eucharist. At an October 4 press conference in Rome, the dissident group called for reconsideration of the key Catholic doctrine on the transubstantiation, an end to the "hierarchical monopoly" on the sacraments, and approval of shared communion with other Christian denominations. Three leaders of the international movement-- Martha Heizer of Austria, Gigi De Paoli of Italy, and Norbert Scholl of Germany-- said that the Synod was likely to prove a "missed opportunity" because the bishops begin their deliberations on the basis of a working document that affirms Catholic dogmatic teachings on the Eucharist. We Are Church argued that all such teachings should be open to question. Specifically, the dissident group called for abandoning the notion that the Eucharist is a sacrifice, and instead saying that the mass is "in memory of the entire life of Jesus." The group called for "full freedom of philosophical and theological interpretation of that mystery." We Are Church argued that the dogma of the transubstantiation-- the teaching that the bread and wine at Mass are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ-- is unacceptable to Protestants, and thus impedes ecumenical unity. The group decried traditional forms of Catholic piety, such as Eucharistic adoration and processions, as tending to make an "idol" of the Blessed Sacrament. The group also denounced the exclusion of women from the Catholic priesthood, the bar on Communion for those who are divorced and remarried, and "monopoly" claimed by priests as sacramental ministers. During the last general assembly of the Synod of Bishops, in October 2001, We Are Church organized a 4-day "counter-synod" in Rome. The event, which drew about 30 participants, was styled as a "parallel synod of the People of God," with speakers demanding a more democratic Church. The "counter-synod" concluded that bishops should be elected, and all believers-- male or female, clerics and laity-- should be eligible. After the election of Pope Benedict XVI (bio - news), We Are Church announced that it was seeking a meeting with the new Pontiff, and hoping to being an "open and constructive dialogue." Christian Weisner, the president of the dissident group, said that he hoped the new Pope would prove "less rigid" than he had been as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Leaders of the group say that they have not had a response to the request for a meeting. We Are Church, founded in Austria in 1995, emerged as an international movement the following year, with liberal Catholics from 20 different countries meeting in Rome to form a united front for "the reform of the Catholic Church on the basis of Vatican II." [i]This article courtesy of Catholic World News. To subscribe or for further information, contact subs@cwnews.com or visit www.cwnews.com [/i][/quote]
LSW Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I have no words. These people are utterly and completely insane. I wouldn't be surprised if B16 laughed in their faces.
Benedict Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 A little known fact: "church", in German, means "nuts." I think Gigi is in on the joke.
Sarah_JC Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 And they don't acknowledge grammer rules either! "We are Church" Really, what is that? :
Excelsior1027 Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='philothea' date='Oct 4 2005, 09:09 PM'] [right][snapback]746262[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Very well put. I love Eucharistic Adoration, they can't take it away! And we don't make an idol out of the Eucharist, that's insane.
Nathan Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 So. The Church should change its 2,000 year-old view of the Eucharist... [i]because Protestants don't agree with it[/i]? Are these people insane? One thing's for sure: they aren't Catholic.
toledo_jesus Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 oh well. When they die we'll know where to find 'em.
philothea Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I predict their next suggestion is to get rid of that whole "worshipping God" bit. It's turning away the atheists!
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I blame sociatal deteroiration and a push to support selfishness and even that we don't even need a God... Silly people need to open their eyes and start taking the hoonking planks and beams out of their eyes before they decide to make dogmatic decisions for the synod... There is a reason why they are ordained clergy... there is a reason why they are the only ones who can consecrate the hosts into the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity...
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='FutureNunJMJ' date='Oct 4 2005, 08:45 PM']I blame sociatal deteroiration and a push to support selfishness and even that we don't even need a God... Silly people need to open their eyes and start taking the hoonking planks and beams out of their eyes before they decide to make dogmatic decisions for the synod... There is a reason why they are ordained clergy... there is a reason why they are the only ones who can consecrate the hosts into the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity... [right][snapback]746394[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Next thing we know they'll be burning down the convents to "free the supressed young women!"
zabbazooey Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='FutureNunJMJ' date='Oct 4 2005, 09:46 PM']Next thing we know they'll be burning down the convents to "free the supressed young women!" [right][snapback]746397[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
Sinner Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 ok...... im sure this will all be happening soon once all the guys with pointy hats come to their senses!! Cashews are my favorite.
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='dUSt' date='Oct 4 2005, 10:18 PM']We Are Church's bases are belong to us. [right][snapback]746509[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
photosynthesis Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 [quote name='dUSt' date='Oct 5 2005, 01:18 AM']We Are Church's bases are belong to us. [right][snapback]746509[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hahahahaha... I just think it's funny when non-Catholic groups try to tell the Church what to do. As if the guidance of the Holy Spirit weren't good enough for them!
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