tojo Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Hello..... Lord and Master of Orthodoxy....... sheesh............. lol
Aloysius Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 I hate defining the word "traditional" as schismatic. they are not truly traditional, because it's traditional to obey the pope. I refuse to give them our word. I was thusly torn between orthodox and traditional, because Cam is to an extent both by my definition. they are not mutually exclusive.
Jaime Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Camster doesn't even like paintings by Cezanne. [img]http://www.abcgallery.com/C/cezanne/cezanne10.JPG[/img] He thinks this smells of elderberries! (Why do I get the feeling no one will understand this one?)
tojo Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Oct 20 2005, 01:22 PM']I hate defining the word "traditional" as schismatic. they are not truly traditional, because it's traditional to obey the pope. I refuse to give them our word. I was thusly torn between orthodox and traditional, because Cam is to an extent both by my definition. they are not mutually exclusive. [right][snapback]765032[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I heartily agree.
Dreamweaver Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 I voted "modernist", but I'm also in a silly mood. It isn't me, its the delicious M&Ms! Mmmm, illicit food in the computer labs. :
Cam42 Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 Actually, the definitions go like this..... Traditional, one who is sympathetic to the Tridentine Mass orthodox (as opposed to Orthodox), a faithful Catholic who adheres to right reason and all the teachings of the Church, past and present. Modernist, one who ascribes to the Modernist heresy as defined by Pope St. Pius X.
Jaime Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 [quote name='Cam42' date='Oct 20 2005, 04:59 PM']Actually, the definitions go like this..... Traditional, one who is sympathetic to the Tridentine Mass orthodox (as opposed to Orthodox), a faithful Catholic who adheres to right reason and all the teachings of the Church, past and present. Modernist, one who ascribes to the Modernist heresy as defined by Pope St. Pius X. [right][snapback]765348[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Cezanne doesn't even get a chuckle? Harumph
Cam42 Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Oct 20 2005, 02:19 PM']Camster doesn't even like paintings by Cezanne. [img]http://www.abcgallery.com/C/cezanne/cezanne10.JPG[/img] He thinks this smells of elderberries! (Why do I get the feeling no one will understand this one?) [right][snapback]765127[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You are correct. I hate them.... Salvador Dali is kinda kewl though....but Raphael, Bernini, and Michelangelo rock my sox.
Cam42 Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Oct 20 2005, 06:00 PM']Cezanne doesn't even get a chuckle? Harumph [right][snapback]765350[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Patience....good sir.....patience.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 [quote name='Cam42' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:59 PM']Actually, the definitions go like this..... Traditional, one who is sympathetic to the Tridentine Mass orthodox (as opposed to Orthodox), a faithful Catholic who adheres to right reason and all the teachings of the Church, past and present. Modernist, one who ascribes to the Modernist heresy as defined by Pope St. Pius X. [right][snapback]765348[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Those are your definitions but if you look a the little catholic dictionary I linked the first definition of orthodox is the church, not the faithfulness of the catholic concerned. Sometimes we must start with what would be common to the people reading the post, not what we know to be the technical and more correct wording.When you post a poll its best to start with definition or examples of what you specifically mean. :
Cam42 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Posted October 21, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 21 2005, 08:55 AM']Those are your definitions but if you look a the little catholic dictionary I linked the first definition of orthodox is the church, not the faithfulness of the catholic concerned. Sometimes we must start with what would be common to the people reading the post, not what we know to be the technical and more correct wording.When you post a poll its best to start with definition or examples of what you specifically mean. : [right][snapback]765869[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ummmm.....CMom? [quote]ORTHODOXY. [b]Right belief as compared with heterodoxy or heresy.[/b] The term is used in the East to identify those churches (not united with Rome) which accepted the ancient councils, notably Ephesus and Chalcedon, and which call themselves “the holy, orthodox, catholic, Eastern Church.” [b]In the West the word is sometimes used to describe a justifiable concern for sound doctrine in the Catholic faith.[/b] (Etym. Greek orthos, right + doksa, opinion: orthodoksa, having the right opinion.)[/quote] [url="http://www.therealpresence.org/cgi-bin/getdefinition.pl"]This is the definition[/url] from your pocket dictionary.
Cam42 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Posted October 21, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 21 2005, 09:57 AM']so read the second line Cam : [right][snapback]765902[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I did....that is why I wrote: [quote][i]orthodox (as opposed to Orthodox),[/i] a faithful Catholic who adheres to right reason and all the teachings of the Church, past and present.[/quote] Perhaps you missed that part???????
cmotherofpirl Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 The term is used in the East to identify those churches (not united with Rome)
cmotherofpirl Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 Anyway what do you think of your numbers???
Cam42 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Posted October 21, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 21 2005, 10:06 AM']The term is used in the East to identify those churches (not united with Rome) [right][snapback]765907[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hence; the little "o" v. the big "O" But, the numbers are as I thought they would be....actually, I started the poll to find out WHY some thought I was a modernist......however, they choose not to post on this thread, so I assume they are simply full of hot air.......not a new concept for those who don't understand what that particular heresy is all about.
philothea Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:00 PM']Cezanne doesn't even get a chuckle? Harumph [right][snapback]765350[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Sorry! I actually did laugh out loud, but I didn't get around to posting a reply. (Cam.... Modernist... still gives me giggles, and I only know him from here!)
Kilroy the Ninja Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 There is a choice left off in the poll..... "I refuse to speculate"
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