Protestants and the Queen of heaven

[Brother Adam]

I convinced a Protestant friend of mine that Mary is the Queen of Heaven. It took me about 23 minutes. I'm not even sure he connected yet what he was hearing from me as we dug through the Bible with the fact that they are "Mariam Dogmas of the Catholic Church"

[peach_cube]

That's great! Wait till he realizes that they are Dogmas of the Church!
Definitely a kodak moment.

[Brother Adam]

yeah. 'Mariam Dogma' and Solomons mom serving as queen mother and Jesus and Mary at Cana and roles we have in the kingdom of God in heaven all haven't quite come together as being about the same thing

[tojo]

Okay you have to tell us how you did it....

[photosynthesis]

you make it sound like a sport or something...

ESPN presents... the SPEED APOLOGETICS CHAMPION Brother Adam, who convinced a Protestant in 23 minutes that MARY is the Queen of Heaven. "So, Brother Adam, how does that make you feel?"

[photosynthesis]

...sorry, in my news writing class we have to write sports stories, and it's messing with my mind...

[Brother Adam]

"What are you going to do now"

"I'm going to Disney Land!"

[blovedwolfofgod]

Judges score:8.9


::im the evil judge that just throws everything off::

[Brother Adam]

Just use the name "Mary" and refer to her only in what she did in the Bible and then draw a whole lotta typological references to Queen Mothers in the kingdom of Israel in the Old Testament. As long as you don't say "Blessed Virgin" or "Mary Mother of God" they keep their defenses down and actually listen for a little while.

[DemonSlayer]

Congratulations.

[philothea]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Nov 7 2005, 07:17 PM']I convinced a Protestant friend of mine that Mary is the Queen of Heaven. It took me about 23 minutes. I'm not even sure he connected yet what he was hearing from me as we dug through the Bible with the fact that they are "Mariam Dogmas of the Catholic Church"
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Too cool.

<--- this is, of course, an honor, not a worship smiley.

[Aloysius]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Nov 7 2005, 08:36 PM']Just use the name "Mary" and refer to her only in what she did in the Bible and then draw a whole lotta typological references to Queen Mothers in the kingdom of Israel in the Old Testament. As long as you don't say "Blessed Virgin" or "Mary Mother of God" they keep their defenses down and actually listen for a little while.
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haha, I remember I used to do that to YOU!!

[StColette]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Nov 8 2005, 12:06 PM']haha, I remember I used to do that to YOU!!
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lol Must have worked wonders, Al.

[photosynthesis]

hmm... perhaps Bro. Adam is becoming faster than his sensei! We should have a timed apologetics match between Al and Bro. Adam to settle this once and for all.

[sweetpea316]

Wow! That's awesome! Usually it takes a while for people to wrap their brain around this...but rock on!

And yes.. I'd like to know what you said too...

[jezic]

do you think it will stick with the person?

[scardella]

Just hope they don't cruise phatmass....

[Aloysius]

lol I wouldn't call myself bro adam's sensai! (epsecially since there were probably a ton more better apologists responsible for helping him towards intelelctual conversion) ... i just remember using those exact same arguments on him long ago.

[Brother Adam]

You did? Hmm...lol, yeah you probably did. I'm getting most of my stuff now from Dr. Bergsma's OT class.

[phatcatholic]

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