sidemunch88 Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote name='Tindomiel' date='Jan 31 2006, 10:20 AM']'Round here, our public schools are failing over 75% of their students. But the only Catholic highschool is [i]miles[/i] away. Homeschooling is definitely the best option in this area. [right][snapback]871001[/snapback][/right] [/quote] are you homeschooled?
CrossCuT Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Ora et Labora' date='Jan 31 2006, 10:33 AM']What about homeschool? See I disagree wih you. All my friends are being homeschooled and then shipped to loser ville Catholic schools. Why wouldnt you homeschool them in highschool which is the age when they are more tempted to sin then any other age?! I for one do not get that. If I were to send My kids to a public school I would have them go before they get serious hormones. Thats me personally. [right][snapback]870954[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [color=330000]I disagree with you. When teens are most susceptible to peer pressure I think is when they are in Junior High; puberty and all that fun stuff. Im not saying they are not exposed to peer pressure at all in high school, but by that time they should be able to know what is right from wrong. And if they were previously going to home school, hopefully they should be pretty good off. I also think that high school is a place where they experience the world a little more, an experience I think everyone should have. Some might not agree with me, but I think everyone should have a chance to go to a high school whether it be public or private because you make good friends and you learn to cope with those who do not always have the same view as you. If you hold this back from them for too long, and then they expect to go to college were almost every person has a different view, it will be hard for them to feel comfortable. In any case, I think that high school is a good experience to go through 98% of the time. There are always those bad apples hanging around, but they do not out-weigh in any sense the good aspects of highschool. But of course, there are MANY factors into all these things. Public, Private and home schooling can all be bad or good in their own ways. EVERYTHING varies depending on the teachers, environment, and students, there really is NO WAY to generalize. But saying that going to high school pretty much ruins your life is a very bold statement and cannot be argued very well. I was home school for all my grade school years up through 7th grade, then I switched to private school. I am VERY happy with it and I would never trade the experience for anything. "loser ville Catholic schools" - Not cool. [/color] Edited February 2, 2006 by CrossCuT
Tindomiel Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 [quote name='sidemunch88' date='Jan 31 2006, 01:16 PM']are you homeschooled? [right][snapback]871100[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yup. And what [i]is[/i]the face for?????
Guest Rick777 Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 [quote name='Tindomiel' date='Jan 31 2006, 09:20 AM']'Round here, our public schools are failing over 75% of their students. But the only Catholic highschool is [i]miles[/i] away. Homeschooling is definitely the best option in this area. [right][snapback]871001[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Remind me to never move to Maine.....
CrossCuT Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 [color=330000]I drive 45 minutes everyday to go to my catholic highschool. If you think Catholic educatoin is important, than I do not think that the fact it is miles away wont be an issue. For some people it is, but others they can see past it. [/color]
Guest mmstladsem Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 okay this is a little issue i have with caholic vs. public schooling i am in the seminary discerning priesthood, all of our seminarians except two have come from public schooling, around this area we have four well rounded catholic schools....so whats the beef? why are not catholic schools pumping out vocations, and public schools are? weird.... PAX
CrossCuT Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 (edited) [quote name='mmstladsem']okay this is a little issue i have with caholic vs. public schooling i am in the seminary discerning priesthood, all of our seminarians except two have come from public schooling, around this area we have four well rounded catholic schools....so whats the beef? why are not catholic schools pumping out vocations, and public schools are? weird.... PAX[/quote] [color=330000]You cant base your thinking on only a couple schools school. The parish that I belong to, St. Agnes in St. Paul MN, has a very large amount of seminarians coming threw them to study for priesthood, where many other parishes don’t. Even the Cathedral of our diocese does not have as many. Why? I dont know. [/color] [quote name='CrossCuT' date='Jan 29 2006, 02:00 PM'][color=330000]Where I go, there are a very high number of students who attend it that either have a very washed down sense of religion or none at all. Their parents send them to a Catholic school to try and make it a job of the teachers and environment to help make their kids somehow saints. But if there is no effort on the parents side, it is not likley to happen, so I think that is why there are many people at Catholic schools who are just as bad off as those at public. One of my very close friends lost her faith here, but I also know of people who have found it. It just depends, but alot of the time Catholic schools are used to try and help kids who do not have a very good religious base in their life and help them find one. And in other cases, just to protect those who do. [/color] [right][snapback]869343[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Edited February 11, 2006 by CrossCuT
sidemunch88 Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 hey if you want to go and debate go to the debate TABLE HELLO WE TRY AND ACT STUPID IN HERE
CrossCuT Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 [color=330000]Yea, I dont know why this thread is even here. But then, it wasnt started as a debate, just an opinion. [/color]
dspen2005 Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 [quote name='OLAM Dad' date='Jan 27 2006, 06:36 PM']Based on this comment, which is very wise, I vote for the Catholic schools. [right][snapback]868062[/snapback][/right] [/quote] doesn't anyone remember Sheen's advice to the man wanting to know whether to send his son to a public university or to a catholic university...??? it holds some validity -- especially in our day. so u can't quite make that presumption anymore
uruviel Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 I disagree with any public school. I don't know what good it is to the child. I think the spiritual growth is better for a child to be schooled and educated with the Catholic faith at home, to get a good Catholic education, and not be around the examples of other HS kids, I would vote homeschool. I would homeschool my kids, this is all on opinion and it's the parents responsibilty and desicion on where to put there child, and where is the right place. It's very hard to choose the "right" place, sometimes there isn't a "right" place, so I can see where it would be very difficult to make a desicion. This is me saying this from no experience in parenthood but I would put my kid in Homeschooling.
uruviel Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 Ummm, a debate is a matter of opinions, so to say, that it didn't start as a debate, it started as an opinion, it's kinda the same thing. Because a debate is a conversation of two oposing opinions,
Tindomiel Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 [quote name='Rick777' date='Feb 6 2006, 04:19 AM']Remind me to never move to Maine..... [right][snapback]876902[/snapback][/right] [/quote] No, there are good things here too, like................................................................................................................................................................. The scenery???
CrossCuT Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 [quote name='uruviel' date='Feb 17 2006, 07:58 PM']Ummm, a debate is a matter of opinions, so to say, that it didn't start as a debate, it started as an opinion, it's kinda the same thing. Because a debate is a conversation of two oposing opinions, [right][snapback]890831[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [color=330000]I meant opinion as in friendly "Hey, I like this..." But obviously it will never end up that way. The only thing I have against homeschool is that it deprives the child of social experience with their piers. It is not always true for some, but when one kid is put in homeschool for highschool and the other in a regular highschool, the one in a regular highschool would have alot more experience in dealing with stress, pressure and enxiety than I believe the other would. I think that it shelters the child too much (Is not always a bad thing) and sometimes you need that worldy experience to be able to deal with alot of different tasks placed on you. There are MANY people who I have met you will stop at nothing to challenge me on what I believe. And this is something I have always been sheltered from when I was in homeschool, so I do not handle the situation very well at all. That is the only problem I have with homeschool, other than that I think it is a great place for kids to get an education. I think it is very important to shelter them from everything that would degraid their moral standpoints, but you NEED to let them know SOMEHOW that there are many ideas and things out there that are wrong and that they will be challenged sometime in life. [/color]
uruviel Posted February 26, 2006 Posted February 26, 2006 [quote name='CrossCuT' date='Feb 21 2006, 07:22 PM'][color=330000]I meant opinion as in friendly "Hey, I like this..." But obviously it will never end up that way. The only thing I have against homeschool is that it deprives the child of social experience with their piers. It is not always true for some, but when one kid is put in homeschool for highschool and the other in a regular highschool, the one in a regular highschool would have alot more experience in dealing with stress, pressure and enxiety than I believe the other would. I think that it shelters the child too much (Is not always a bad thing) and sometimes you need that worldy experience to be able to deal with alot of different tasks placed on you. There are MANY people who I have met you will stop at nothing to challenge me on what I believe. And this is something I have always been sheltered from when I was in homeschool, so I do not handle the situation very well at all. That is the only problem I have with homeschool, other than that I think it is a great place for kids to get an education. I think it is very important to shelter them from everything that would degraid their moral standpoints, but you NEED to let them know SOMEHOW that there are many ideas and things out there that are wrong and that they will be challenged sometime in life. [/color] [right][snapback]894238[/snapback][/right][/quote] I absolutley disagree with that. I have been homeschooled, my whole life. Now, i do not mean to brag, or anything like this might sound, but I am able to deal with sitautions by reasoning very well. I can handle most situations, and that alll depends on the way you are formed, if you grow away from the world, but grow with God, then you mature spiritually with God, and then you can over look all of the worldy things to deal with situations. I was blessed to have parents who formed me as a good catholic and to have God help mature me spiritually. So, once you are mature in that way, you can deal with pier pressure because that's below you, and the pressure from your fellow students is because you are too immature (that's not your fault) to do anything otherwise. Being homeschooled lets the mind mature and if you met my sister who is 21 and was homeschooled her whole life you would NEVER guess she was sheltered. She is the most outgoing, nice person and I may not be that outgoing, but I don't want to be overly social and into the world. I like living the way I live, as simple as possible. St. Therese had a miraculas spiritual matureity level in one night, and she was so amazing, granted she didn't have the same pier pressure but I believe that if you are formed spiritaully, you will be able to deal with the world calmy and reasonably.
CrossCuT Posted February 26, 2006 Posted February 26, 2006 [quote name='CrossCuT' date='Feb 21 2006, 08:22 PM'][color=330000] The only thing I have against homeschool is that it deprives the child of social experience with their piers. [i]It is not always true[/i] [/color] [right][snapback]894238[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
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