Era Might Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 This was a fun thread. In light of Pope Francis' upcoming encyclical (and the already beginning dissent) here's a docudump from L_D. :dead: :evil: What's the encyclical going to be about?
Amppax Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 What's the encyclical going to be about? The environment. Apparently it will devote some space to the question of climate change.
PhuturePriest Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 The environment. Apparently it will devote some space to the question of climate change. Good. Finally something I can wholeheartedly agree with the Pope on. People's lack of empathy towards the planet and absolute denial that humans can in theory ruin the earth goes directly against our mission given by God to care for the earth.
CrossCuT Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 As an official member of the tree huggers dance squad, I support what FP said above. But with everything else he says, I disagree 100%.
Nihil Obstat Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 As an official member of the tree huggers dance squad, I support what FP said above. But with everything else he says, I disagree 100%. I remember one time he said you were kind of cute.
PhuturePriest Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 As an official member of the tree huggers dance squad, I support what FP said above. But with everything else he says, I disagree 100%. I appreciate the sentiment. We should make a new global climate change thread together so we can prop each other's posts throughout. I remember one time he said you were kind of cute. I don't think times when I was jacked on Mountain Dew count.
Amppax Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 How coy. My first reaction (for a split second) was that you were comparing him to those oversized goldfish. Alas, we don't always get what we want.
Nihil Obstat Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 My first reaction (for a split second) was that you were comparing him to those oversized goldfish. Alas, we don't always get what we want. But if you try sometimes you just might find... you get what you need.
Not The Philosopher Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I suppose you could say that even wild horses couldn't drag this thread away.
PhuturePriest Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I suppose you could say that even wild horses couldn't drag this thread away. I have taken the time to fully appreciate your avatar for the first time ever. Good taste, sir.
Not The Philosopher Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I have taken the time to fully appreciate your avatar for the first time ever. Good taste, sir. I am a paragon of good taste.
CrossCuT Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Found this to be an easy article to read for the average Joe. (Not saying that as a slight) It includes a lot of external links to reports and other articles written by notable scientists. It is my opinion that climate change denialism (or any sort of denialism of innovation, science, or discovery) boils down to the new era we seem to be passing into: anti-intellectualism. You cant really argue with anti-intellectualist because they dont operate on the same plane of reality as you do. So its a hard battle...but one I hope we can surmount before this gets too far. :idontknow:
Ash Wednesday Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 What I don't understand is why people, including Catholics, are so UPSET about Pope Francis' upcoming encyclical, despite the fact that not one word of it has even come to light. I guess I also don't understand why people generally get upset about any idea that we should be careful stewards of the earth. Is it because secularists use it as a justification for population control? Because, you know, as Catholics we don't have to approach it that way and I fail to see how being given dominion over the earth means some kind of God given right to swim in our own garbage, deplete our resources and harm our quality of life as if that's the ideal that He wills for us. I doubt it. Mind you, I grew up in the Evergeen State (Washington) so generally we recycle in our sleep and caring about our surroundings is second nature to us. But I don't understand why people get so defensive about the subject of ecology. I've seen people call Francis the "worst pope ever" over something like this, and it just boggles my mind. BRB going to go hug a western hemlock now.
PhuturePriest Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 What I don't understand is why people, including Catholics, are so UPSET about Pope Francis' upcoming encyclical, despite the fact that not one word of it has even come to light. I guess I also don't understand why people generally get upset about any idea that we should be careful stewards of the earth. Is it because secularists use it as a justification for population control? Because, you know, as Catholics we don't have to approach it that way and I fail to see how being given dominion over the earth means some kind of God given right to swim in our own garbage, deplete our resources and harm our quality of life if it can be avoided. Mind you, I grew up in the Evergeen State (Washington) so generally we recycle in our sleep and caring about our surroundings is second nature to us. But I don't understand why people get so defensive about the subject of ecology. I've seen people call Francis the "worst pope ever" over something like this, and it just boggles my mind. BRB going to go hug a western hemlock now. The Church in America has become so policitized that non-political issues (Like global climate change) have become political. I'm not a liberal by any means, but if I told any of my republican friends that I believe in global climate change, they would automatically label me as a liberal and not listen to anything I say otherwise. America, in every facet, is so political that nothing is not political.
dUSt Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 What I don't understand is why people, including Catholics, are so UPSET about Pope Francis' upcoming encyclical, despite the fact that not one word of it has even come to light. Politics before faith. It's really as simple as that.
Winchester Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Anthropogenically driven climate change is not the thing talked about in the media. Science and the pope never get proper representation from journalists.
veritasluxmea Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 America, in every facet, is so political that nothing is not political. Politics is like a form of religion. I wonder if that's the case is any other western countries.
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