Quietfire Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 I get the feeling by your initial post that you have confusion in the fact that the second Person of the Trinity became man, suffered, died, was resurrected and ascended to Heaven as man...and therefore that might mean that God has changed? Is that correct?
toledo_jesus Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 [quote name='Myles' date='Mar 4 2006, 08:12 PM']Why? Everything you need to know was explained in the links provided by Sts Cyril and Aquinas. I dont see what you need to know that they did not cover? [right][snapback]903060[/snapback][/right] [/quote] HAHAHAHAHA. Your befuddlement in this matter amuses me. When are theologians going to realize that the sheep speak plain English? Boil it down so we don't have to think too hard.
rkwright Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Mar 8 2006, 11:50 AM']HAHAHAHAHA. Your befuddlement in this matter amuses me. When are theologians going to realize that the sheep speak plain English? Boil it down so we don't have to think too hard. [right][snapback]906539[/snapback][/right] [/quote] If the question is that important to a person, their usually willing to get the best answer, and sometimes that means pulling out a dictionary and really working the brain. I can tell you 4 X 4 = 16 and you can accept it. But if you want an explaination of why you better be ready to learn what 4, X, =, and 16 mean. Edited March 8, 2006 by rkwright
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Well, the way I was taught in CCD was... the Most Holy Trinity existed before mankind. Jesus was in Heaven, before Adam and Eve as the second person of the Holy Trinity. God knew the world's plan, and so that is why Jesus was born here on earth, to be like man and bring salvation to all. Jesus always existed, that is my belief.
Semalsia Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 I read this thread again and I think I understand now. Don't know why I didn't the last time. Thanks for answering my silly question.
Brother Adam Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 [quote name='Semalsia' date='Mar 21 2006, 02:01 PM']I read this thread again and I think I understand now. Don't know why I didn't the last time. Thanks for answering my silly question. [right][snapback]916686[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Phatmass is like that. If you wade through everything enough eventually the truth seeps through
Theoketos Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 21 2006, 01:03 PM'] Phatmass is like that. If you wade through everything enough eventually the truth seeps through [right][snapback]916690[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Its like acquiring a taste for a good wine.
infinitelord1 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 yes since jesus is god and god always existed.
infinitelord1 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 also, i like to think of god in a more philosophical way......rather than as this loving god. Not to take away from gods love or nothing. But if you think about it.........anything that says the opposite of the truth would be a lie.....right? Well, jesus says in the bible that the devil (which represents evil) is the father of all lies. It all philosophically combines like one big puzzle. I really think that anything which is the opposite of the truth is a sin. To go deeper.........without our god given ability to reason and be consciously aware.......there would be no concept of lies and truth. There would be no concept of mathematics, science, etc. Now think of this.......did algebra exist before it was discovered. Yes!!!! it wouldnt make a difference if you were able to travel back in time before algebra existed and try to apply the same algebraic equations just as you would today. Point being......the truth exists whether we realize it or not, and i think we can both agree that there is a truth to this world.......and we cant really measure how much truth exists....when it comes to god its a matter of belief. When it comes to faith.......it really depends on how willing you are to believe. The more willing you are to believe......the more you start to realize that there is a god. Just give it a chance semalsia.......and keep digging.......you will start to see.......and when you start to see.......you will see how blind you were beforehand. Going back to opposite of truth=sin..... they say jesus came to take away the sins of the world. I personally interpret this as this man, who contains god within, revealing many truths, that are necessary to our wellbeing, to us. Jesus (or god)came and spoke the truth......and there is something more to this. If you think about it god could have came in any form and spoke these truths........but he chose to be like us. Now the big question is......why didnt he just walk around like a burning bush or a light seeming through the clouds........i believe he appeared as man, because he didnt want to take our free-will away from us. If we were givin the truth......we would have no other choice but to follow the truth. But god chose to appear as man because he didnt want to take our gift of freewill away.
Paphnutius Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) [quote]anything that says the opposite of the truth would be a lie.....right?[/quote]Actually a lie presupposes the intention to decieve in the one communicating. So not all falsehoods are lies morally speaking for one must have the intention to deceive for it to be a lie. [quote]did algebra exist before it was discovered. Yes!!!![/quote]It depends on your definition of existence. Algebra is a system that only has mental existence. It is a mode of describing the relationships of numbers (which also only have mental existence). While it describes something that may indeed have physical existence, algebra only has mental existence so it is indeed debatable as to whether it existed before it was "discovered." Just some tangents... Edited March 22, 2006 by Paphnutius
infinitelord1 Posted March 23, 2006 Posted March 23, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Paphnutius' date='Mar 21 2006, 09:21 PM']Actually a lie presupposes the intention to decieve in the one communicating. So not all falsehoods are lies morally speaking for one must have the intention to deceive for it to be a lie. It depends on your definition of existence. Algebra is a system that only has mental existence. It is a mode of describing the relationships of numbers (which also only have mental existence). While it describes something that may indeed have physical existence, algebra only has mental existence so it is indeed debatable as to whether it existed before it was "discovered." Just some tangents... [right][snapback]917396[/snapback][/right] [/quote] i was trying to make the point that it existed whether it had mentally existed at the time or not. Im sure you realize that. Edited March 23, 2006 by infinitelord1
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