15 years ago today

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

st. Athanasius was also excommunicated. and he is now A saint!

when Lefebvre's name is cleared i will forgive all of you.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

that is true. but Luther is excommunicated for good Reason. St. Joan of Arc was not. are you equating the two?

[Era Might]

If one man's excommunication can be lifted, any other man's excommunication can be lifted.

If the Pope chooses to lift the excommunication of Martin Luther or Marcel Lefebvre or anyone else, that is his prerogative.

[Era Might]

double post

[Era Might]

[quote]If once again we succeed in pointing out and living the fullness of the Catholic religion with regard to these points, we may hope that the schism of Lefebvre will not be of long duration.

--Pope Benedict XVI

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[homeschoolmom]

Fifteen years ago, HSdad and I had our engagement pictures taken for the newspaper.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Mar 25 2006, 11:54 PM']Fifteen years ago, HSdad and I had our engagement pictures taken for the newspaper.
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Happy Aniversary!

[catholicinsd]

Get over it people. Vatican 2 is a done deal. His Excellency the Archbishop is dead. He gave his life to Christ, so I think its safe to say His Excellancy isn't in Hell.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Mar 26 2006, 12:04 AM']Happy Aniversary! 
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We just had the pictures taken in March. Our anniversary's in June, but thanks.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='catholicinsd' date='Mar 26 2006, 12:07 AM']Get over it people. Vatican 2 is a done deal. His Excellency the Archbishop is dead. He gave his life to Christ, so I think its safe to say His Excellancy isn't in Hell.
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you have an oversimplified version of salvation. Many Protestants "give their life to christ" this does not ensure salvation.

not to imply that His Excellency Archbishop Lefebvre is a protestant, in fact far from it.

Vatican II is not "a done deal".

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Mar 26 2006, 12:09 AM']We just had the pictures taken in March. Our anniversary's in June, but thanks.
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oops

[catholicinsd]

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Vatican II is not "a done deal".
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It was 40 years ago

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='catholicinsd' date='Mar 26 2006, 12:15 AM']It was 40 years ago
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whats your point?

something bieng 40 years old does not mean it was not a radical departure from the Catholic faith.


i notice that you have a quote from Padre Pio.

i hope you know what he said about Vatican II

during the V2 council 1965, in which St. Padre Pio said to papal
representative Cardinal Bacci: [b]"For pity's sake, end the Council quickly!"[/b](Fr. Jean, O.F.M. Cap., a colleague of St. Padre Pio's in the Capuchin Order)

[catholicinsd]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Mar 26 2006, 12:21 AM']whats your point?

something bieng 40 years old does not mean it was not a radical departure from the Catholic faith.
i notice that you have a quote from Padre Pio.

i hope you know what he said about Vatican II

during the V2 council 1965, in which St. Padre Pio said to papal
representative Cardinal Bacci: [b]"For pity's sake, end the Council quickly!"[/b](Fr. Jean, O.F.M. Cap., a colleague of St. Padre Pio's in the Capuchin Order)
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Well St. Pio was a faithful Catholic, loyal to The Church & TH Popes John 23 & Paul 6

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

so Was Lefebvre before He died. In fact i have a picture of them together!

[catholicinsd]

Then why was His Excellency excommunicated?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

episcopal consecrations without papal mandate.

St. Pio Died before any of this could have taken place.

[missionseeker]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Mar 26 2006, 12:21 AM']whats your point?

something bieng 40 years old does not mean it was not a radical departure from the Catholic faith.
i notice that you have a quote from Padre Pio.

i hope you know what he said about Vatican II

during the V2 council 1965, in which St. Padre Pio said to papal
representative Cardinal Bacci: [b]"For pity's sake, end the Council quickly!"[/b](Fr. Jean, O.F.M. Cap., a colleague of St. Padre Pio's in the Capuchin Order)
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since we are now arguing- I'll venture this. Please do not take it offensivley


But in asserting all this you're saying that you know more about the Church than the pope did. And that would be close to saying you know more than God because you know, God picks the pope.

[Dave]

Also, Sam, do you have proof -- I mean REAL proof (that is, something coming from someone other than some conspiracy theorist) -- that St. Padre Pio said that?

[Dave]

Also, Sam, do you have proof -- I mean REAL proof (that is, something coming from someone other than some conspiracy theorist) -- that St. Padre Pio said that?