puellapaschalis Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) Because it's late at night (here, at least) and I can't sleep and I know you chaps are all still awake. For those who are reading or have read, add your comments! What's your favourite bit? What didn't you understand? Which bits really struck you? Has it helped your discernment? How? If not, how so? Right, I'm going to try the sleeping thing again Love and sleepy prayers, PP Edited March 28, 2006 by puellapaschalis
HisChild Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 Currently reading it. . .will let you know when I'm done. . .will ALL 86 pages! LOL It's on my ipod so I can have portability when I am away from home!
AlterDominicus Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 Its on your Ipod? Hows that possible?? lol
HisChild Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 You can use the ipod to store text notes as well as songs. It's got a lot of functions that many don't use.
friarMatt Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I first read it in novitiate, and I reread it ever 6 months or so. my favorite line is from paragraph 81: "The new evangelization, like that of all times, will be effective if it proclaims from the rooftops what it has first lived in intimacy with the Lord. It calls for strong personalities, inspired by saintly fervour." I find it helpful, especially for those of us with uhhmmmm "strong personalities."
HisChild Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Thanks Friar Matt, for your input. Sometimes I wish I was meek like Mary. . .that really edifies me.
shortnun Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I saw some Dominicans yesterday who reminded me (again!!!) that I really need to read it the whole way through now. I've only read pieces thus far.
HisChild Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Uh, why would OPs remind you that you had to read VC?
shortnun Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 [quote name='PCPA2Be' date='Mar 28 2006, 10:38 PM']Uh, why would OPs remind you that you had to read VC? [right][snapback]926308[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Oh b/c two of the Nashville sisters stopped in St. Louis on their way to Kansas for a vocations fair. And they spoke about living the consecrated life and (obviously) used quotes from Vita Consecrata.... thus, I took it as the Lord reminding me to bump that to the "priority" section of my "To Read" list.
HisChild Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Gotcha! Makes sense! From what I've read so far, it's a fabulous document
Laurentina1975 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Yes it is! (Denise what up with you owning all the threads)?
HisChild Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I'm just wired, and wanted to post. Nothing really. Not like I'm pulling a Lil Red. . .. LOL Hey, I was wondering . . .we should post a prayer thread for those discerning.
puellapaschalis Posted March 29, 2006 Author Posted March 29, 2006 I'm about halfway through and whilst there have been lots of bits that have struck me, this was one that I could easily find again on a flickback. It's the second part of para 43: [quote]In an atmosphere strongly affected by individualism, it is not an easy thing to foster recognition and acceptance of the role which authority plays for the benefit of all. Nevertheless, its importance must be reaffirmed as essential for strenghtening fraternal communion and in order not to render vain the obedience professed. While authority must be above all fraternal and spiritual, and while those entrusted with it must know how to involve their brothers and sisters in the decision-making process, it should still be remembered that [i]the final word belongs to authority[/i] and, consequently, that authority has the right to see that decisions taken are respected.[/quote] Flippant comment: ah, so that's why vocations have plummeted in the Netherlands - the Dutch are on the whole just far too [i]eigenwijzig[/i] (stubborn) to submit in love to any kind of authority. They'll bicker about anything and everything Not So Flippant comment: this passage really sums up much of what I feel about attitudes to authority, especially Church authority. People seem to have such a weird idea about obedience - whether it be to the Magesterium, or one's priest or bishop, or even the obedience (for children) to one's parents. Even some Catholics! Indeed, if obedience and authority were what many people seem to think they are, then life would be quite intolerable. But it's clearly not - the Catholics I know who obey [i]out of love[/i] aren't miserable at all, nor are they desperately scouting around for a fuzzy faith community that will make them feel good about themselves. Of course VC is about the consecrated life. However, the first chunk is all about how consecrated persons provide a powerful example for the rest of the faithful to follow, and a sign of what life in Heaven will be like. So I don't think it would do people any harm whatsoever to take this little passage and reflect on it in their own lives, regardless of where that might be. Love and prayers, PP
cappie Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Vita Consecrata [i]14. The evangelical basis of the consecrated life is Jesus’ special relationship with the disciples who, responding to His call, left everything behind and closely imitated His life. In the consecrated life, the baptismal consecration develops into a radical response to Christ through acceptance of the evangelical counsels. To discern the essential characteristics of this special vocation, one must fix one’s gaze on the radiant face of Christ in the mystery of the Transfiguration. This vision of Christ captures the contemplative and the “active” dimensions of consecrated life. The ascending to spiritual heights and the descending to work in the world is the core dynamic of the consecrated life.[/i]
salveregina Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Ah! The Nashville OP you speak of is Sister Mary Emily, the vocation director, yes? She is wonderful. I read Vita Consecrata a few years ago. I should probably re-read it. It's all highlighted and noted and whatnot, so it makes for a fun read. What I do know is that it is beautiful, and if I had a memory (at all!) I would memorize lines in there like it was my job. That an Evangelium Vitae. I would memorize both of them in their entirety to quote at random
shortnun Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 [quote name='salveregina' date='Mar 29 2006, 07:31 PM']Ah! The Nashville OP you speak of is Sister Mary Emily, the vocation director, yes? She is wonderful. [right][snapback]927664[/snapback][/right] [/quote] She is lovely. I met Sr. Marie Dominic as well. I've spoken with Sr. Mary Emily on the phone (and Sr. Catherine Marie too before her), but never met in person. Are you discerning with them?................ if it is God's will, I will be there to visit over their May retreat.
cappie Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 check this out:[url="http://www.religiouslife.com/vc_intro.phtml"] STUDY GUIDE[/url]
HisChild Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Ooooh, thank you! I will use this while I read VC.
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