Sojourner Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 [quote name='Peccator' date='Apr 10 2006, 04:58 AM']No I don't...my personal opinion is that they are in heaven...(I'm probably opening myself up for attack again ) [right][snapback]941911[/snapback][/right] [/quote] This is my belief as well.
dspen2005 Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 for those that purport a belief in Limbo cannot seem to provide a theological foundation for it in Divine Revelation.... hmm, does anyone else find this peculiar?
Theoketos Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 It is beyond me... But God is not bound to the Sacraments as we are.
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 I tend not to but really have not shut the door on it.
Socrates Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 The idea of Limbo makes sense to me, and I'd tend to believe in it, but it's not something I can say with absolute certainity, as the Church has not made a definitive statement on this issue. So I voted "maybe."
uruviel Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Apr 9 2006, 03:29 PM']I dunno. I expect God balances Justice with Mercy. Justice says Limbo, Mercy says Heaven. It's up to God, I suppose. Either way, can we just be sad when babies die? Jeez. [right][snapback]941128[/snapback][/right] [/quote] well now God brings good out of EVERYTHING. As Mother Angelica once said, about the aborted babies, that the good He brings out of it is just after death they get to see His holy face, they were not guilty of a sin, and only had few weeks of life, they had a privlege, an amazing privlage. to see the holy face directly after death is a wish many have and don't gain.
uruviel Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='Socrates' date='Apr 10 2006, 05:46 PM']The idea of Limbo makes sense to me, and I'd tend to believe in it, but it's not something I can say with absolute certainity, as the Church has not made a definitive statement on this issue. So I voted "maybe." [right][snapback]942689[/snapback][/right] [/quote] exactly, the church hasn't said anything I'm not obligated to believe anything as a Catholic, it's up to God and God alone.
uruviel Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' date='Apr 9 2006, 04:07 PM']well, you're a stupid liberal. [right][snapback]941188[/snapback][/right] [/quote] that was nice of you to make a statement based CLEARLY on your own anger ... and opinion. Not saying your not free to make a statement as such but that was just a childish way of calling someone an 'insult' I can't say whether I believe in it or not. I would like to believe that there is none, but I don't have the knowlege to say that. I thought limbo was a place of waiting? Not an eternal place
Paladin Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Until it's dogmatically defined by Christ's True Church what happens to infants at death, I'm gonna have to say .
dspen2005 Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Apr 9 2006, 04:29 PM']I dunno. I expect God balances Justice with Mercy. Justice says Limbo, Mercy says Heaven. It's up to God, I suppose. Either way, can we just be sad when babies die? Jeez. [right][snapback]941128[/snapback][/right] [/quote] you are separating God's Justice from His Mercy; but this is an error. God's Justice IS His Mercy and His Mercy is His JUstice.... it is for our finite minds that we categorize and define these things in God.
toledo_jesus Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='dspen2005' date='Apr 11 2006, 06:44 AM']you are separating God's Justice from His Mercy; but this is an error. God's Justice IS His Mercy and His Mercy is His JUstice.... it is for our finite minds that we categorize and define these things in God. [right][snapback]943165[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I thought I was saying that He balances the two...since Mercy and Justice are distinct concepts. Even if they are the same if they are God's, they'd be balanced, right?
rufiokicks Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Well, I'm studying Dante's Inferno right now, but I don't really support the idea of Limbo. Just because a child wasn't baptized by blood doesn't mean that the child wasn't baptized by blood or desire. Assuming that we're discussing the traditional view of Limbo, we have to keep in mind that Limbo is also part of Hell, and Hell is for those who choose sin. If you look at it that way, how could they go to Limbo?
dspen2005 Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Apr 11 2006, 07:43 AM']I thought I was saying that He balances the two...since Mercy and Justice are distinct concepts. Even if they are the same if they are God's, they'd be balanced, right? [right][snapback]943242[/snapback][/right] [/quote] a balancing implies a separation... there is none in God.
dspen2005 Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' date='Apr 9 2006, 01:00 PM']I most definetly beileve in Infant's Limbo, do you? [right][snapback]940849[/snapback][/right] [/quote] interesting... you neglect to give us foudational reasons for your belief. could it be that you have none? (by foundational, i mean in Divine Revelation)
stbernardLT Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 The Church also held the tradition of Father's Limbo where it is believed the patriarchs of the old testament remained till Christ's brought them out of prison on Holy Saturday. If anyone knows if these two are thought to be related in tradition please explain.
stbernardLT Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='dspen2005' date='Apr 11 2006, 01:30 PM']u mean the "bosom of Abraham"? [right][snapback]943716[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yes but I have heard it referred most recently by Tim Staples as the Father's Limbo.
goldenchild17 Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 I haven't studied it too much, but from what I have read I believe it to be strongly probable. I believe in it. Personally, I feel one reason that a lot of people(not saying anyone here, but some in general) have done away with Limbo, in order to help the abortion cause. Ya know the whole "it doesn't matter if you abourt, the baby will be in heaven anyways" thing. Not saying it is common, but I have definitely come across it a lot.
stbernardLT Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [quote name='goldenchild17' date='Apr 11 2006, 03:32 PM']I haven't studied it too much, but from what I have read I believe it to be strongly probable. I believe in it. Personally, I feel one reason that a lot of people(not saying anyone here, but some in general) have done away with Limbo, in order to help the abortion cause. Ya know the whole "it doesn't matter if you abourt, the baby will be in heaven anyways" thing. Not saying it is common, but I have definitely come across it a lot. [right][snapback]943841[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Very misguided on why is isn't comon anymore. Try the fact that it was never actually doctrine in the first place.
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