For those who label themselves "Trads"

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Now that is great to read.

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[quote name='StThomasMore' post='989798' date='May 24 2006, 03:57 PM']
In the following post I'm going to unhijack this thread. I have chosen to no longer identify myself with those who identy themselves as "Tradtional Catholics" or "Trads." I choose to do so because the so called "Traditional Catholics" are mostly heretics who deny that His Holieness is the Pope, deny that the Novus Ordo Missae is Catholic, deny that the Second Vatican Council was at least "authoritative," and deny that persons who attend the Novus Ordo Missae and believe in the Pope and find Vatican II to be authoritative are Catholic.

If the term "Traditional Catholic" were not abused as it currently is today, I would still use the term to describe myself as such since I attend the Traditional Latin Mass or Eastern Divine Liturgy, find works of "modern biblical scholarship" such as the New American Bible and New Jersualem Bible to be a load of carp, do not read the Catechism of the Catholic Church or the CCC in Q and A format (though I do find them to be authoritative), only attend the Novus Ordo when it is the only way to fufill my Obligation, do not think the new process of canonizations which does not use the "Devil's Advocate" to be appropriate (though I do believe that those canonizations are still infallable), follow the 1962 claendar, and detest Life Teen and Female Altar Boys and Extraoridanry Ministers of Holy Communion in ordaniry circumstances and holding hands during the Pater Noster and not kneeling during the Canon and shaking hands at the Pax and unveiled women in church and versus poplum (other than when versus poplum IS ad orientam) and the charismatic movement and other "liturgical abuses".

Since I have said these things, I would like to now say that I identify myself as a normal Catholic who happens to be very traditional and hates liturgical abuses.
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I agree the term is used loosely and must say that I am a normal Catholic who happens to be very traditional and hates liturgical abuses, too.


Also, I hope to be able to help fix them even though I am a girl. Not on a large scale but in whatever parish I am in.

I also think that alot of times it is adults more then teens who like LifeTeen Music at Mass. I know way more teens who refuse to go to LT Mass than adults who refuse to go to a Mass that is beautiful and shows more respect to God. I know of so many adults who sit in the back and Text message during Mass. (LT) I bet they wouldn't do that at a Chant Mass or even one with traditional hymns.

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[quote name='missionseeker' post='990132' date='May 24 2006, 11:52 PM']

I also think that alot of times it is adults more then teens who like LifeTeen Music at Mass. I know way more teens who refuse to go to LT Mass than adults who refuse to go to a Mass that is beautiful and shows more respect to God. I know of so many adults who sit in the back and Text message during Mass. (LT) I bet they wouldn't do that at a Chant Mass or even one with traditional hymns.
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wanna bet. If someone wants to be irreverant or disrespectful the setting doesn't matter. The only real deterrant to such behavior would be the blatent disapproval of people around them, and now a days that rarely happens. Embarrassment and guilt are great social forces that are rarely applied these days.