If a woman gets a sex-change, can he become a priest?

[ChrisZewe]

Or if a man does, can she become a nun? o.O I've always wondered this.

[OLAM Dad]

A woman who has a sex change operation is still a woman, only with added male parts. Same goes for a man. So, no, they could not become a priest/nun/brother.

Regardless, anybody who does this has severe psychological problems that would preclude them from becoming a religious. They couldn't even be married within the church much less ordained.

[Sixtina87]

DITTO!!!!

[Fulton Sheen Warrior]

+JMJ+

In reality their is no such thing as "sex-change", only self-mutilation.

[SisterAli]

I agree TOTALLY with OLAM DAD and FSW.....

[brandelynmarie]

sometime in the past several years...a woman & a woman who had a sex-change operation had attempted to get married...the court's ruling was based on their genetics...both had female chromosomes & according to that state law could not be married...so even though this is a secular example...it still flies with the above reasonings for our Church....

Edited May 22, 2006 by brandelynmarie

[Guest phatdaddy]

You know, I had never thought of that. But in today's bazaar world I guess you need to be prepared address strange issues like this. Thanks PM'r for the insight.
Mr. Ray

[scardella]

Hrm...
so, does the soul have sex? (I know I'm opening a can of worms here, but I thought it might be worth a revisitation, considering...)

[Ora et Labora]

[quote name='scardella' post='987330' date='May 22 2006, 03:18 PM']
Hrm...
so, does the soul have sex? (I know I'm opening a can of worms here, but I thought it might be worth a revisitation, considering...)
[/quote]
Yes

[OLAM Dad]

That was me.

[ChrisZewe]

Thank you for the answer. I've always wondered that o.o

[kateri05]

because, we're not dualist and believe in teh inseparable nature of body and soul (hence,really, why their is a resurrection of the body), your body can't do anything without your soul and vice versa. this includes conjugal union

[brandelynmarie]

So...perhaps the Bible verse that says (& I'm trying to remember how it goes!): "...in God there is neither Gentile nor Jew...servant nor free...woman nor man no more..." Okay, maybe I am quoting a song verse...but it is based on Scripture....is refering to mutual love & respect among Christian peoples rather than actual physical attributes? (I hope this makes sense!) Am I on track or is this refering to somethng else...like heaven? :

[scardella]

[quote name='brandelynmarie' post='989295' date='May 24 2006, 06:53 AM']
So...perhaps the Bible verse that says (& I'm trying to remember how it goes!): "...in God there is neither Gentile nor Jew...servant nor free...woman nor man no more..." Okay, maybe I am quoting a song verse...but it is based on Scripture....is refering to mutual love & respect among Christian peoples rather than actual physical attributes? (I hope this makes sense!) Am I on track or is this refering to somethng else...like heaven? :
[/quote]

My understanding of that verse has always been that your dignity does not depend on attributes or incidentals (I'm forgetting the philosophical term here), but because you are made in the image and likeness of God. Therefore, in response to this fundamental human dignity, we are to love them. (Of course the external actions of that love do highly depend on those incidentals.)

Note that this is not to say that amendment for sins is not necessary. It is certainly a function of love to correct errors and repent for sins.

[brandelynmarie]

Ah ha! Thank you!

[scardella]

[quote name='brandelynmarie' post='989355' date='May 24 2006, 08:05 AM']
Ah ha! Thank you!
[/quote]

Then again, I'm no final authority on biblical interpretation... note that Scripture in many ways often has layers and layers of meaning. There's a reason why it's called the Word of God. We can never truly plumb its depths, but we can say that some interpretations are certainly valid and some are certainly invalid. For instance, the Church has said that it is a fallacy to interpret the above quote as meaning that there is no fundamental differences between the sexes.

I believe I heard somewhere that "the body is the icon of the whole person."

[ruso]

[quote name='ChrisZewe' post='986341' date='May 21 2006, 02:52 PM']
Or if a man does, can she become a nun? o.O I've always wondered this.
[/quote]
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH?.

[Guest phatdaddy]

[quote name='brandelynmarie' post='989295' date='May 24 2006, 08:53 AM']
So...perhaps the Bible verse that says (& I'm trying to remember how it goes!): "...in God there is neither Gentile nor Jew...servant nor free...woman nor man no more..." Okay, maybe I am quoting a song verse...but it is based on Scripture....is refering to mutual love & respect among Christian peoples rather than actual physical attributes? (I hope this makes sense!) Am I on track or is this refering to somethng else...like heaven? :
[/quote]

Ah hah! you bring up an interesting thought. Being male or female is mostly physical characteristics based on function, but we all know there are phycological differences, emotional differences and probably others, you smart people could list. But how much of those differences are accually in the soul? There must be some. ummmm. There is no gender in personhood. But our "personess" is made up of body and soul. darn it! I just gave myself a headache

[Laurentina1975]

[quote name='brandelynmarie' post='989295' date='May 24 2006, 06:53 AM']
So...perhaps the Bible verse that says (& I'm trying to remember how it goes!): "...in God there is neither Gentile nor Jew...servant nor free...woman nor man no more..." Okay, maybe I am quoting a song verse...but it is based on Scripture....is refering to mutual love & respect among Christian peoples rather than actual physical attributes? (I hope this makes sense!) Am I on track or is this refering to somethng else...like heaven? :
[/quote]


That would be "One Bread One Body"....it's a Eucharistic hymn usually sung during Holy Communion.

[uruviel]

I've wondered too, what exactly makes a female a female, and a male, a male. Is it just physically, or does your soul have a sex? When God creates your little soul in the womb, your little body, He puts a sex, say he makes you female, your mind, intellect, soul, heart, emotions and physical body are female are they not?